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you're in the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio and now

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here's gene Steinberg let me ask you a

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question Chris O'Brien and maybe it's

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something I'm missing so when I go on to

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I still see reviews oh my god the para

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cast has too many commercials now few

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people have with our permission put up

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YouTube and they get a pretty decent

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amount of traffic and occasionally we

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see the same thing oh my god it's got

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too many commercials now correct me if

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I'm wrong maybe I'm completely out of

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sorts here maybe I just don't know

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what's going on on every single episode

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of the Power casts since last November

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we have been mentioning very carefully

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the power cast plus the way to get the

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ad-free version of the show am i doing

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something wrong with those announcements

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well perhaps somebody is not reading

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them or listening to them well I think

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if they're so upset about the

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commercials they are listening to the

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show we think unless they simply scroll

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to ten minutes into the first segment

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and say oh my god their commercials I'll

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turn it off now I don't know you just

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never know gene who knows how people

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think wacky people live here yeah I was

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reading a thread on our forums about a

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recent interview with race Stanford

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mentioning a photograph of the Socorro

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UFO am I getting that right yeah it's

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something that I was asked not to talk

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about it and I didn't but now that he's

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kind of mentioned it publicly I guess I

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can talk about it you know he has

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revisited this whole case and has really

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carefully examined quite a number of

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photographs that were taken of the site

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and of course the one photograph of him

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taking a picture of Alan Hynek taking a

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picture you know behind him and there's

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an object apparently in the distance

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that that god I'm thinking that perhaps

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other photographs may have had objects

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he found a photograph that uh yeah it

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was more of a snapshot it was his friend

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I think it was Bob McGarry I'm standing

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that was located a short distance away

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from the actual landing site he was

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facing I guess into the South West and

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snapped a picture when he went back in

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reviewed and all these years later he

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happened to notice three small dots in

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the sky very close to the horizon at the

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very edge of the picture and so he he

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scanned it a real high DPI rate and then

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blew it up and much to his surprise our

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three craft including two that looked

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just like this Socorro object one of

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them that actually has the legs extended

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down below it and he's he's spent quite

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a bit of time sharpening up the image

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you working with brightness and contrast

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and it's it's pretty it's pretty amazing

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it does appear to be three objects in

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fairly close formation just above the

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horizon quite and quite a some miles

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distant it would be about oh I don't

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know at least 20 miles away when he told

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me about this he was kind of embarrassed

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they never saw it to begin with but he

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was also elated because I mean the two

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of those like I said two of those

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objects I mean they look exactly like

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Lonnie Zamora described this egg-shaped

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object and he was going to not mention

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it until he came out with a revised

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version of his Socorro book adding new

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information and some other photographs

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and whatnot and I guess I guess now the

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cats out of the bag so I can talk about

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it it is quite amazing and of course I'm

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sure there'll be people there detractors

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they always just photoshopped you put it

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in there but but Ray Ray's not like that

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he doesn't need to do those those sorts

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of things and he's very down on that and

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feels that that's a really negative

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aspect of the field right now with

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people attempting to hoax a visual

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evidence so it's pretty interesting you

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know when you look at it and the picture

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was taken I think about nine months

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after the actual Sakura land and so you

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know what are the odds

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so anyway that's that's what he was

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talking about and I have quite a

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detailed workup that he provided his

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list that shows all the various steps

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that he took to get to the to the point

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where he's really isolated these objects

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and and it's it's pretty amazing the guy

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just you know never ceases to amaze me

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some of the things that he can glean out

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of photographs or horror films and and

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I'm his biggest fan but I really I'm

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just itching for the chance for him to

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get it get out there and present this

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this wonderful analytical work and

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diagnostic propulsive analysis to to the

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scientific community he does have a

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member of the European Space Agency I

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think there's either tear tomorrow you

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know during the middle of the week here

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ago when we're taping the guys coming

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over I think or he may have been over

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yesterday to spend an entire afternoon

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with him so I need to get a little a

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and I'm more more to say later you know

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the show perhaps on after the power cast

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being that we're mentioning after the

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advantage of it now today we have a

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ufology her name is Margie Cade and

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she's associated with the Missouri

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branch of MUFON and she also has a radio

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show which she calls you and X news and

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she's got a rather involved background

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where she's covering cryptozoology she

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claims to do remote viewing there's a

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lot of stuff there and a fair amount of

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this to be blunt is a little out of our

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better or worse okay

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little beyond it for example her bio

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says that she has also done some kind of

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thefts using her unique remote viewing

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our listeners so she's due up next

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again Margie K UFO psychic investigator

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podcast.com with Jia and Chris we

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welcome Margie ke to the power cast as I

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mentioned Margie is an assistant state

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director for the Missouri MUFON and also

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has her own UN X news magazine radio

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show does remote viewing does forensic

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work with police departments there's a

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thousand things to discuss there but the

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first Margie and welcome to the show

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is how you got interested in anything

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about the paranormal did you have a

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early experience some sort oh sure I was

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very very young about two and a half

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years old when I started seeing little

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lights coming into the window auras and

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and energy fields around trees things

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like that and then by the time I was

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about six I was seeing dead people so I

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was introduced to it at a young age

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wait a minute dead people that comes

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across like the movie Sixth Sense was it

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like that oh yeah absolutely

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of course I didn't know what it was and

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I didn't figure out until I was about

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eleven years old that I was actually

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seen and speaking to ghosts or people

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who had passed over because I had a very

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rude awakening when I was 11 I went to

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bed one night and all of a sudden there

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was this glowing white head at the foot

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of my bed and it was speaking I couldn't

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hear anything but I could see it and I

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described it to my father and he went

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and got his photo album out and he says

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does this look like what you saw and I

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said yes that's him right there and it

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turned out to be my grandfather who had

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died several years earlier and before I

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was born so you never met this person

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you say he was trying to speak to you so

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his lips were moving but no sound came

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out right I I couldn't hear any sound at

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that time I was not clairaudient at that

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time I was clairvoyant clairsentience so

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I could sense things and see things but

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I couldn't hear things until I was oh in

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my 20

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probably around 22 23 something like

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that so whenever this happened when you

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were 22 you might have actually heard

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this person speaking right and I did I

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mean he did speak to me later and he

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still does you hear him speaking but

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does he hear you if you talk back yes

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yes absolutely and I can I can ask

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questions we can have a conversation

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just like you and I are right now yeah I

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can do that with almost almost anybody

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who's crossed over I actually started

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out in my 20s helping other people speak

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to dead people

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a lot more than speaking to my own

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relatives okay so this is something only

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involving your own relatives up till

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then until you started talking to people

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about how they could do it well people

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would ask me for help then I joined an

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organization as a psychic organization

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and as soon as I figured out what was

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going on you know my mother bought me

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some Edgar Cayce books because they

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didn't know what to do with me and she

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got you know I've got me started going

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to the library and study in this so I

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could figure out you know why I knew

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things in advance or why I knew when

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something was happening hundreds of

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miles away at the same time and they

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weren't worried about it but they didn't

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know how to help me understand it so in

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getting these books and I realized what

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was going on and I had a sixth sense

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and I started utilizing it and helping

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other people speak to their loved ones

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who passed on it's called doing readings

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you know when you're when you're doing

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that type of thing and I did oh gosh

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probably over 3,000 readings in the last

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30-plus years for other people speaking

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to mostly speaking to people who crossed

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over or their spirit guides

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well you'd fit in great up here in

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Sedona oh yeah very very new age

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community and with a lot of open minds

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out there yeah that's true but so for

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every one person with talent there's ten

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wannabes you know so you kind of have to

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be

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that's true anywhere yeah that's true

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have you ever had any contact with

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academic scientists who are interested

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in these abilities and and maybe had

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performed some sort of test with

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something with you because it sounds

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pretty obviously what you're claiming is

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not your normal you know abilities right

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and yes I have I've had I had a study

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done on me when I was fifteen by the

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high school science instructor he

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introduced ESP to the class one day and

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he did some tests and I scored off the

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charts and so he decided to do some more

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testing on me and then he took it upon

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himself to create this study group where

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each of the class members got to work

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with me and one would sit with me in a

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closed room while another one would be

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outside the room and he would you know

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we would do the ran our cards and colors

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and numbers and all that sort of thing

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and then they started getting more

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difficult and they would place a student

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somewhere in the building and I had to

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find them so that was my first

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introduction to remote viewing this

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particular study isn't anything that's

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been documented no no no this was a high

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school high school study now I would

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love to get into a program and get some

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real documentation and testing done but

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I just the opportunity hasn't presented

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itself I think it's I'm gonna have to

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seek that out myself and I'm so busy

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that you know I just don't think about

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doing that but yeah I would I would

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welcome a you know an official

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scientific study now is this your day

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job or do you have some other gig oh now

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I own a construction company that

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specializes in chimney restoration and I

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have a company that instructs

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professionals in the business so I teach

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other companies how to do their job with

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chimneys and fireplaces

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and then I also own a forensic

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investigation company we do fire

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investigations of structural fires and I

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write up all of those reports and all of

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you know fire investigation reports and

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estimates all that that's my day job now

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when it comes to fires just quickly you

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will also look for evidence of arson

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right yes

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yes except we don't specialize in arson

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we take the classes on it but we

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specialize in structural fires that have

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been caused by heating appliances and

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chimneys let me ask you Margie here what

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are your customers think of the psychic

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and UFO stuff you're doing well I keep

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the two separate I don't use my real

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name when I'm doing the psychic work and

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say you're not Margie Jay no I'm no no

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my real name is Marge Padgett and I

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don't mind telling this group that

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because it doesn't matter

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but I keep Margie case separate from my

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chimney business although some people

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have found out it turns out they're very

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interested in it and they started coming

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to two meetings and and you know events

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that I have so it turned out alright but

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you know there's a there's a certain

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element out there that would you know

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puts the person like me and in the

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woowoo factor and see in that part of

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the country out there there's fairly

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conservative out there I would imagine

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pretty conservative

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I think people become a lot more

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open-minded recently mainly due to you

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know TV and radio and you know shows not

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to mention all the activity that MS

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Missouri's just evident flowing out

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there it seems that there's always

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something going on there that's I think

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one of the the most active states

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definitely the most active state and in

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the Midwest one of the top three or four

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in the whole country let's do our break

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last year oh I know I was told no more

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hard labor then why are you digging well

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I've been taking extended bite it's been

548
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approved to help my heart extended bite

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is that a new drug no not a drug it's

550
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more like an herbal combination made

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from garlic and cayenne herbal how can

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that help well actually we've taken

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why just doing the job for me does your

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doctor know about extender bite yeah my

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618
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hi this is Don Ecker and you are tuned

619
00:27:09,110 --> 00:27:06,720
in to the para cast let me tell you what

620
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you're gonna hear stuff here that you

621
00:27:17,149 --> 00:27:12,630
probably won't hear anywhere else hear

622
00:27:19,010 --> 00:27:17,159
that George Noory so we have a psychic I

623
00:27:22,279 --> 00:27:19,020
think for one of the few times we've had

624
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such a person on the para cast March

625
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he's also a crack field investigator for

626
00:27:32,630 --> 00:27:29,760
UFOs for cattle mutilations she's kind

627
00:27:33,980 --> 00:27:32,640
of a Renaissance lady you do a little

628
00:27:35,690 --> 00:27:33,990
bit of everything but let me ask you

629
00:27:37,490 --> 00:27:35,700
then let's focus a little bit more on

630
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the psychic material and then go on to

631
00:27:42,350 --> 00:27:40,049
your UFO investigations and everything

632
00:27:46,310 --> 00:27:42,360
else Margie and that is to the person

633
00:27:48,919 --> 00:27:46,320
who says when you're talking to these

634
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dead people they say all right you're

635
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talking to somebody how you know that

636
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:55,049
person is really your grandfather some

637
00:28:00,230 --> 00:27:57,450
other relative that's pulling the

638
00:28:03,350 --> 00:28:00,240
blinders on there yeah I have to do I do

639
00:28:06,740 --> 00:28:03,360
a test I asked a person who has crossed

640
00:28:09,140 --> 00:28:06,750
over first of all my method is to ask

641
00:28:11,419 --> 00:28:09,150
the person's name so by hearing the

642
00:28:13,940 --> 00:28:11,429
vibration of that person's name I can

643
00:28:15,590 --> 00:28:13,950
tune in to them and if I if I still have

644
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:15,600
a little trouble I'll say where are they

645
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from and that'll help me and I usually

646
00:28:23,210 --> 00:28:21,690
don't need anything else so then I asked

647
00:28:25,279 --> 00:28:23,220
when I contacted that person who's

648
00:28:27,590 --> 00:28:25,289
crossed over I will ask them to tell me

649
00:28:30,380 --> 00:28:27,600
something that only they know and the

650
00:28:32,500 --> 00:28:30,390
person I'm speaking to knows and they

651
00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:32,510
will give me something it will be a

652
00:28:37,820 --> 00:28:35,370
color of an eyeshadow they wore or a

653
00:28:39,110 --> 00:28:37,830
favorite type of a vehicle or you know

654
00:28:41,029 --> 00:28:39,120
something that they used to do that

655
00:28:43,970 --> 00:28:41,039
there's no way I could know about and

656
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:43,980
then I know I've contacted that person

657
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:47,490
and whoever that the the client is will

658
00:28:52,610 --> 00:28:50,850
know that we're in contact okay so you

659
00:28:55,669 --> 00:28:52,620
will accept than a client someone comes

660
00:28:57,950 --> 00:28:55,679
to visit you and so for example I say to

661
00:29:00,740 --> 00:28:57,960
you Margie I would like to contact my

662
00:29:01,700 --> 00:29:00,750
late brother and maybe or maybe not you

663
00:29:05,180 --> 00:29:01,710
could contact him

664
00:29:09,260 --> 00:29:05,190
yes except that I don't do that type of

665
00:29:12,649 --> 00:29:09,270
work anymore I only use my psychic

666
00:29:16,129 --> 00:29:12,659
abilities now to to teach

667
00:29:19,070 --> 00:29:16,139
people how to do it and also for missing

668
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:19,080
person and unsolved homicides for law

669
00:29:25,249 --> 00:29:21,570
enforcement and that's where I spend my

670
00:29:26,869 --> 00:29:25,259
time doing the psychic readings is kind

671
00:29:28,940 --> 00:29:26,879
of more of an entertainment type of

672
00:29:31,879 --> 00:29:28,950
thing and to me it's kind of a waste of

673
00:29:33,979 --> 00:29:31,889
time if I asked her for example Margie

674
00:29:35,349 --> 00:29:33,989
would you do a reading for me you

675
00:29:37,549 --> 00:29:35,359
probably wouldn't want to bother

676
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:37,559
probably not unless you had something

677
00:29:41,239 --> 00:29:39,690
important unless you had let's say I

678
00:29:42,229 --> 00:29:41,249
loved one passed over and they were

679
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supposed to leave you something and you

680
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couldn't find it you know or you lost

681
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:46,289
something that's very very important

682
00:29:50,060 --> 00:29:48,450
then then I'll help you out but if you

683
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just want it for entertainment purposes

684
00:29:53,779 --> 00:29:52,859
you know no I wouldn't know I'd do it on

685
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the show for you

686
00:29:57,979 --> 00:29:55,200
you know if you wanted to do something

687
00:30:00,589 --> 00:29:57,989
like that that's fine my brother died

688
00:30:02,060 --> 00:30:00,599
about 20 years ago and there is an

689
00:30:04,609 --> 00:30:02,070
unresolved issue which I will not

690
00:30:08,690 --> 00:30:04,619
mention what that is obviously and I

691
00:30:10,999 --> 00:30:08,700
wanted to try to contact him and resolve

692
00:30:13,999 --> 00:30:11,009
this issue it would certainly be helpful

693
00:30:16,810 --> 00:30:14,009
I'll just leave it at that okay okay I

694
00:30:19,969 --> 00:30:16,820
would just need to hear you say his name

695
00:30:21,979 --> 00:30:19,979
well I will say his name but remember

696
00:30:25,419 --> 00:30:21,989
also you can go on Google and find out

697
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:25,429
lots about him his name was Wallace

698
00:30:34,779 --> 00:30:33,450
Herbert Steinberg okay and where did he

699
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:34,789
live last

700
00:30:42,710 --> 00:30:39,090
lassy live was Rumson New Jersey Rumson

701
00:30:49,539 --> 00:30:42,720
our umso in I don't have to look at that

702
00:30:53,779 --> 00:30:49,549
Rumson New Jersey okay right a small

703
00:30:56,389 --> 00:30:53,789
town of scale town in Monmouth County

704
00:30:58,669 --> 00:30:56,399
New Jersey now I'm not going to prejudge

705
00:31:01,820 --> 00:30:58,679
anything here or anything that Marge is

706
00:31:05,899 --> 00:31:01,830
about to say but if you look at Rumson

707
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:05,909
New Jersey some famous people lived

708
00:31:12,859 --> 00:31:08,970
there used to live there maybe not now

709
00:31:16,690 --> 00:31:12,869
but you can look that up okay just to

710
00:31:20,839 --> 00:31:16,700
see if this is the right man is he tall

711
00:31:24,079 --> 00:31:20,849
was he tall yes that's nothing you can't

712
00:31:25,639 --> 00:31:24,089
find out but go ahead well I'm not

713
00:31:26,540 --> 00:31:25,649
looking on the internet you can hear my

714
00:31:28,220 --> 00:31:26,550
keyboard right now

715
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:28,230
I'm not looking on the internet I'm

716
00:31:35,390 --> 00:31:30,090
closing my eyes when I do these readings

717
00:31:39,740 --> 00:31:35,400
go ahead and looking so his hair would

718
00:31:42,130 --> 00:31:39,750
have been kind of long but down to the

719
00:31:46,070 --> 00:31:42,140
ears and down to the nape of the neck

720
00:31:49,700 --> 00:31:46,080
and a little tender full full hair on

721
00:31:51,170 --> 00:31:49,710
the sides especially so I'm asking to

722
00:31:55,210 --> 00:31:51,180
you that if to make sure I have the

723
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:55,220
right man no not quite okay now okay

724
00:31:59,360 --> 00:31:57,330
let's just say you had it half right

725
00:32:01,100 --> 00:31:59,370
there folks now we didn't plan this

726
00:32:03,860 --> 00:32:01,110
ladies and gentlemen that we're going to

727
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:03,870
have margie put to the test

728
00:32:09,290 --> 00:32:06,930
but having raised the issue of something

729
00:32:11,650 --> 00:32:09,300
unresolved involving me and my brother

730
00:32:14,570 --> 00:32:11,660
let's see what happens go on please

731
00:32:21,130 --> 00:32:14,580
okay sometimes it takes me a few minutes

732
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:21,140
to tune in but we'll try here all right

733
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:23,850
what we're doing here is she proceeds is

734
00:32:27,890 --> 00:32:25,530
we're trying to see if she can learn

735
00:32:32,060 --> 00:32:27,900
something or get in touch with the late

736
00:32:35,330 --> 00:32:32,070
Wallace H Steinberg I've mentioned on

737
00:32:39,170 --> 00:32:35,340
this show from time to time I see him

738
00:32:42,830 --> 00:32:39,180
around a vehicle and it looks like a

739
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:42,840
like a vintage type car with rounded

740
00:32:51,530 --> 00:32:48,930
edges on it kind of like Oh an

741
00:32:52,870 --> 00:32:51,540
austin-healey or Karmann Ghia something

742
00:32:56,540 --> 00:32:52,880
like that

743
00:33:02,350 --> 00:32:56,550
and it just I see him reaching in and

744
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:02,360
touching the gearshift secure ship

745
00:33:10,700 --> 00:33:07,170
vintage not particularly no sports car

746
00:33:15,170 --> 00:33:10,710
it feels like a fast car and very

747
00:33:17,780 --> 00:33:15,180
important to him he was not heavily into

748
00:33:22,340 --> 00:33:17,790
cars I mean he had some interesting cars

749
00:33:25,540 --> 00:33:22,350
over his lifetime but no okay now I see

750
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:25,550
a woman involved it feels like his wife

751
00:33:38,930 --> 00:33:33,330
and the the the issue has something to

752
00:33:40,970 --> 00:33:38,940
do with her not telling people about

753
00:33:44,609 --> 00:33:40,980
something

754
00:33:44,879 --> 00:33:44,619
so I'll tell you what I'm mm hmm let me

755
00:33:48,479 --> 00:33:44,889
see

756
00:33:51,599 --> 00:33:48,489
let me just let this kind of percolate a

757
00:33:53,519 --> 00:33:51,609
little bit in my brain and we'll see if

758
00:33:55,919 --> 00:33:53,529
we get anything during the rest of our

759
00:33:58,379 --> 00:33:55,929
conversation I'll let you know fair

760
00:34:00,210 --> 00:33:58,389
enough okay yeah let's see if she learns

761
00:34:01,799 --> 00:34:00,220
more because so far nothing's really

762
00:34:04,109 --> 00:34:01,809
hitting there except the fact that he

763
00:34:07,590 --> 00:34:04,119
was relatively tall and that's about it

764
00:34:13,730 --> 00:34:07,600
the rest doesn't really hit directly I

765
00:34:21,359 --> 00:34:13,740
see him bending over to get in to a par

766
00:34:23,399 --> 00:34:21,369
well compared to me all right so we're

767
00:34:25,109 --> 00:34:23,409
just trying something here and whether

768
00:34:27,869 --> 00:34:25,119
or not Margie comes up with more

769
00:34:29,909 --> 00:34:27,879
information well no now obviously they

770
00:34:32,700 --> 00:34:29,919
have the skeptical view point here is

771
00:34:34,919 --> 00:34:32,710
that when you say you're doing this

772
00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:34,929
either you're putting something over on

773
00:34:39,539 --> 00:34:37,089
somebody you're imagining it you're

774
00:34:41,819 --> 00:34:39,549
doing a cold reading which would be you

775
00:34:44,039 --> 00:34:41,829
could make a good guess I have something

776
00:34:47,819 --> 00:34:44,049
about somebody how do you respond to

777
00:34:50,930 --> 00:34:47,829
that well here's the thing it's the more

778
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:50,940
emotion that there is around something

779
00:34:58,140 --> 00:34:54,690
the better and then more accurate I am

780
00:35:00,299 --> 00:34:58,150
so if there has been a murder say

781
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:00,309
there's a lot of emotion around that

782
00:35:06,270 --> 00:35:02,170
there was a lot of fear around that for

783
00:35:09,559 --> 00:35:06,280
the victim I will get extreme details

784
00:35:12,630 --> 00:35:09,569
I'll get names how the murder happened

785
00:35:15,390 --> 00:35:12,640
where it happened the circumstances

786
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:15,400
around all of that stuff will come

787
00:35:20,069 --> 00:35:17,890
through now on something that's less

788
00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:20,079
important I won't get as much detail now

789
00:35:27,270 --> 00:35:22,089
I don't know why that works it's just

790
00:35:30,329 --> 00:35:27,280
the way it is and I've done so many out

791
00:35:33,539 --> 00:35:30,339
of 53 cases I've worked for missing

792
00:35:39,690 --> 00:35:33,549
persons and homicides and and large

793
00:35:42,630 --> 00:35:39,700
theft cases I've helped to solve 50 out

794
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:42,640
of 53 so that's how accurate I am with

795
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:44,890
things that are very very important now

796
00:35:49,859 --> 00:35:46,450
this is something documented I could

797
00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:49,869
look this up it's documented however

798
00:36:00,540 --> 00:35:57,030
yeah at different levels and that's not

799
00:36:03,780 --> 00:36:00,550
something that is made public and in

800
00:36:07,290 --> 00:36:03,790
fact I insist whenever I do work with

801
00:36:09,599 --> 00:36:07,300
law enforcement I did they never use my

802
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:09,609
name because I don't want the criminals

803
00:36:14,370 --> 00:36:12,490
coming after me they just kind of

804
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:14,380
through word of mouth know who I am

805
00:36:20,370 --> 00:36:17,890
and contact me okay so I can't make

806
00:36:24,060 --> 00:36:20,380
independently Margie now to confirm

807
00:36:26,130 --> 00:36:24,070
you've really done this no no okay

808
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:26,140
just trying to verify that all right

809
00:36:31,500 --> 00:36:27,490
we've got a lot more to talk about we're

810
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:31,510
going to segue over to her UFO research

811
00:36:38,220 --> 00:36:34,690
and her Cryptozoic Oh research in a

812
00:36:40,030 --> 00:36:38,230
moment with gene and Chris you're in the

813
00:36:47,370 --> 00:36:40,040
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814
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resources in 1971 President Nixon took

895
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the united states off the gold standard

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to put us into a fiat currency the

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Congress and the Federal Reserve to

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create trillions of dollars out of thin

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a fiat currencies 27 years the dollar is

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currencies fall people turned to gold

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been real money for more than five

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extension 308 is greg cameron from

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presidential UFO comm you're listening

922
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to the Peres cast the gold standard

923
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:16,460
paranormal we returned with margie kay

924
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:18,890
and to let our listeners know what's

925
00:41:21,849 --> 00:41:20,210
going on here in the power our cast

926
00:41:23,980 --> 00:41:21,859
because this is kind of unusual we

927
00:41:26,290 --> 00:41:23,990
haven't talked to people who are

928
00:41:28,859 --> 00:41:26,300
psychics that much on the show of course

929
00:41:31,900 --> 00:41:28,869
margie kay is also involved in UFO and

930
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:31,910
cryptozoological research but i asked

931
00:41:39,250 --> 00:41:36,890
that she try to connect with my late

932
00:41:41,310 --> 00:41:39,260
brother wally and we haven't had any

933
00:41:43,810 --> 00:41:41,320
results then we'll see if she does

934
00:41:45,550 --> 00:41:43,820
achieve any results as we progress but

935
00:41:46,710 --> 00:41:45,560
let us continue here so you say that

936
00:41:49,359 --> 00:41:46,720
you've worked with law enforcement

937
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:49,369
authorities margie but that information

938
00:41:54,550 --> 00:41:51,050
i can't look up because it's done on a

939
00:41:56,170 --> 00:41:54,560
confidential basis that's right and the

940
00:41:58,210 --> 00:41:56,180
reason being of course is you don't want

941
00:42:02,080 --> 00:41:58,220
the criminal or their fellow travelers

942
00:42:07,030 --> 00:42:02,090
to go after you if you successfully

943
00:42:10,540 --> 00:42:07,040
point the right person exactly and there

944
00:42:12,849 --> 00:42:10,550
have been some major cases with shall we

945
00:42:15,370 --> 00:42:12,859
say well known crime families involved

946
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:15,380
and i do not want them to know who i am

947
00:42:18,910 --> 00:42:18,290
so there are best way to do it is to

948
00:42:21,010 --> 00:42:18,920
keep it quiet

949
00:42:22,750 --> 00:42:21,020
so for somebody who

950
00:42:25,030 --> 00:42:22,760
doesn't believe it how do you convinced

951
00:42:25,630 --> 00:42:25,040
them I I don't care if they don't

952
00:42:28,570 --> 00:42:25,640
believe it

953
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:28,580
you know that doesn't bother me at all

954
00:42:31,570 --> 00:42:29,810
they're always people that are not going

955
00:42:33,580 --> 00:42:31,580
to believe that that that sort of thing

956
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:33,590
is possible but I live with it every day

957
00:42:38,260 --> 00:42:35,810
so does my whole family and all my

958
00:42:43,150 --> 00:42:38,270
employees and everybody that I'm

959
00:42:46,030 --> 00:42:43,160
involved with you know as far as all the

960
00:42:47,370 --> 00:42:46,040
groups I'm in they know and a lot of

961
00:42:52,530 --> 00:42:47,380
them call me for help

962
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:52,540
so you know there's always skeptics and

963
00:42:57,550 --> 00:42:55,370
some people who are so skeptical that

964
00:43:01,900 --> 00:42:57,560
they can't open their mind to new

965
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:01,910
possibilities and that's just the way

966
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:05,570
their mindset is I can't change that so

967
00:43:10,990 --> 00:43:07,610
how do we research things like this

968
00:43:13,540 --> 00:43:11,000
how do we prove scientifically this that

969
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:13,550
goes on well there are you know the

970
00:43:18,550 --> 00:43:15,410
Monroe Institute there are places that

971
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:18,560
that research a sort of thing there's

972
00:43:24,970 --> 00:43:21,170
you can get a degree in parapsychology

973
00:43:27,190 --> 00:43:24,980
in California you know this sort of

974
00:43:30,250 --> 00:43:27,200
thing exists it's real just like ghosts

975
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:30,260
are real and ETS are real it's just a

976
00:43:33,820 --> 00:43:31,970
matter of your own experience if a

977
00:43:35,500 --> 00:43:33,830
person doesn't experience himself it's

978
00:43:37,330 --> 00:43:35,510
hard to believe it there have been a lot

979
00:43:39,730 --> 00:43:37,340
of things that I've had trouble

980
00:43:44,410 --> 00:43:39,740
believing for instance I'd didn't

981
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:44,420
believe in astrology until I had a very

982
00:43:51,190 --> 00:43:47,570
very good astrologer tell me some things

983
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:51,200
that were very very accurate and she

984
00:43:56,170 --> 00:43:53,690
continues to be accurate so I think if

985
00:43:58,950 --> 00:43:56,180
you get the right person as far as

986
00:44:01,960 --> 00:43:58,960
something like that concern it may work

987
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:01,970
and look at you know Ronald Reagan Nancy

988
00:44:07,240 --> 00:44:04,090
Reagan depended on an astrologer and

989
00:44:08,740 --> 00:44:07,250
psychics and they must have had some

990
00:44:10,510 --> 00:44:08,750
accuracy or they wouldn't have kept

991
00:44:15,730 --> 00:44:10,520
going to them it didn't help with

992
00:44:17,230 --> 00:44:15,740
iran-contra did it no it doesn't mean

993
00:44:20,370 --> 00:44:17,240
you have to listen to the advice or

994
00:44:21,820 --> 00:44:20,380
whether you will listen to the advice

995
00:44:25,240 --> 00:44:21,830
well right

996
00:44:28,330 --> 00:44:25,250
I you know Kennedy was warned by a

997
00:44:30,340 --> 00:44:28,340
psychic not to go to Texas she knew

998
00:44:34,060 --> 00:44:30,350
something was going to happen he didn't

999
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:34,070
listen so you know that's I've had

1000
00:44:37,170 --> 00:44:34,970
people

1001
00:44:39,700 --> 00:44:37,180
call me before they get on a plane and

1002
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:39,710
I've told them to get another flight and

1003
00:44:42,930 --> 00:44:41,090
then there was trouble with the engine

1004
00:44:47,620 --> 00:44:42,940
on that flight they were going to be on

1005
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:47,630
just weird stuff like that to let me

1006
00:44:52,060 --> 00:44:49,850
know by the way Margie if you hear

1007
00:44:55,810 --> 00:44:52,070
anything or get any insights about my

1008
00:44:58,210 --> 00:44:55,820
brother fair enough I will I will he has

1009
00:45:00,520 --> 00:44:58,220
to want to just talk to that's the thing

1010
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:00,530
he's got to want to tell me something so

1011
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:04,130
he's got to trust me and we're just kind

1012
00:45:11,710 --> 00:45:07,610
of having a side conversation while you

1013
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:11,720
and I are talking and I I'm just he's

1014
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:13,370
letting me know there's an issue with a

1015
00:45:18,580 --> 00:45:16,090
woman involved in keeping things from

1016
00:45:21,730 --> 00:45:18,590
other family members so I'm trying to

1017
00:45:30,060 --> 00:45:21,740
see who that is well that redefines

1018
00:45:37,060 --> 00:45:34,660
the UFL realm here Margie okay now

1019
00:45:39,340 --> 00:45:37,070
before we define ETS or indicate whether

1020
00:45:43,900 --> 00:45:39,350
ETS are involved what got you interested

1021
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:43,910
in UFOs I had been involved with UFOs

1022
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:46,610
since a very very young age

1023
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:49,090
probably less than twelve months old I

1024
00:45:57,070 --> 00:45:52,970
didn't realize it though until I was

1025
00:45:59,920 --> 00:45:57,080
much older about 1985 I was in Seattle

1026
00:46:03,550 --> 00:45:59,930
Washington and I took my brother and my

1027
00:46:06,790 --> 00:46:03,560
two kids out to watch the meteor shower

1028
00:46:10,150 --> 00:46:06,800
in August and while we were lying there

1029
00:46:13,030 --> 00:46:10,160
on the top of the car looking up we saw

1030
00:46:15,310 --> 00:46:13,040
what we thought were satellites and we

1031
00:46:16,870 --> 00:46:15,320
saw one and then it just stopped and

1032
00:46:19,780 --> 00:46:16,880
then another one came along the same

1033
00:46:21,910 --> 00:46:19,790
path right over our heads 90 degrees and

1034
00:46:23,380 --> 00:46:21,920
then it stopped at the same location

1035
00:46:26,620 --> 00:46:23,390
looked like it joined with the first one

1036
00:46:28,900 --> 00:46:26,630
and then four more came and now the

1037
00:46:32,590 --> 00:46:28,910
fifth when the fifth one got there

1038
00:46:34,780 --> 00:46:32,600
it joins with the other four and then

1039
00:46:39,070 --> 00:46:34,790
instantly shot off at a 90 degree angle

1040
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:39,080
at the speed I could not imagine we all

1041
00:46:45,180 --> 00:46:42,650
saw that and and just got up and got in

1042
00:46:47,770 --> 00:46:45,190
the car and left not saying a word

1043
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:47,780
because we all knew we were looking at

1044
00:46:51,009 --> 00:46:48,890
something that was know

1045
00:46:54,609 --> 00:46:51,019
of this earth so that was my first

1046
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:54,619
confirmation in my mind that we were

1047
00:46:59,950 --> 00:46:57,410
looking at something otherworldly okay

1048
00:47:01,720 --> 00:46:59,960
so you feel it's otherworldly because it

1049
00:47:04,029 --> 00:47:01,730
does things you don't expect something

1050
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:04,039
on this planet to be capable of doing

1051
00:47:10,059 --> 00:47:07,970
right right now since since then when I

1052
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:10,069
have gotten very involved in this

1053
00:47:19,059 --> 00:47:15,170
subject I found that in fact we mean our

1054
00:47:20,979 --> 00:47:19,069
military does have some things some

1055
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:20,989
crafts they can do incredible things and

1056
00:47:26,229 --> 00:47:22,970
could be mistaken for something off

1057
00:47:30,970 --> 00:47:26,239
planet but that was the first time I was

1058
00:47:32,859 --> 00:47:30,980
awakened to that possibility discussing

1059
00:47:35,859 --> 00:47:32,869
the power cast from time to time Margie

1060
00:47:38,620 --> 00:47:35,869
which is whether or not the military has

1061
00:47:42,130 --> 00:47:38,630
test aircraft that may from time to time

1062
00:47:44,979 --> 00:47:42,140
be mistaken for a possible UFO so you

1063
00:47:48,729 --> 00:47:44,989
see that happening a lot I do

1064
00:47:51,009 --> 00:47:48,739
I suspect of course I have no proof but

1065
00:47:54,339 --> 00:47:51,019
I suspect that that is what is happening

1066
00:47:57,609 --> 00:47:54,349
for instance I have a case where one of

1067
00:48:01,870 --> 00:47:57,619
the witnesses saw a craft that was very

1068
00:48:04,720 --> 00:48:01,880
close to her and in the windows were men

1069
00:48:07,420 --> 00:48:04,730
in military uniforms there were humans

1070
00:48:10,839 --> 00:48:07,430
they were not ETS and they were they

1071
00:48:14,349 --> 00:48:10,849
were looking at her and operating

1072
00:48:16,749 --> 00:48:14,359
devices inside the craft so this is a

1073
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:16,759
triangular typical black triangle craft

1074
00:48:23,259 --> 00:48:19,970
with three lights on the bottom and one

1075
00:48:25,950 --> 00:48:23,269
red light in the center so you know

1076
00:48:28,630 --> 00:48:25,960
anybody could interpret that as being

1077
00:48:31,019 --> 00:48:28,640
something off planet but I believe that

1078
00:48:33,789 --> 00:48:31,029
the black triangles are probably ours

1079
00:48:35,890 --> 00:48:33,799
yeah you and David Marlar he of course

1080
00:48:38,499 --> 00:48:35,900
wrote the book black triangles and I

1081
00:48:41,349 --> 00:48:38,509
think he's convinced that at least a

1082
00:48:44,559 --> 00:48:41,359
portion of these sighting reports are

1083
00:48:48,069 --> 00:48:44,569
actually some sort of exotic you know

1084
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:48,079
earthbound craft or earth technology at

1085
00:48:53,950 --> 00:48:51,170
work and play our tax dollars put it

1086
00:48:56,529 --> 00:48:53,960
that way all of them there are some that

1087
00:49:00,339 --> 00:48:56,539
appear to be high strange that can do

1088
00:49:02,540 --> 00:49:00,349
maneuvers that that defy you know I

1089
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:02,550
guess what would be consider

1090
00:49:06,530 --> 00:49:05,010
conventional flight that are

1091
00:49:10,010 --> 00:49:06,540
non-ballistic in nature they can make

1092
00:49:12,890 --> 00:49:10,020
right angle turns hover go very fast

1093
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:12,900
that sort of things so there are some

1094
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:14,490
and there may be something else but

1095
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:16,970
definitely I absolutely agree with you

1096
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:20,610
about about at least a portion of those

1097
00:49:25,300 --> 00:49:23,850
sightings right and and whether those

1098
00:49:27,830 --> 00:49:25,310
have been reverse-engineered from

1099
00:49:29,240 --> 00:49:27,840
extraterrestrial craft is is another

1100
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:29,250
question but I think that's probably

1101
00:49:35,420 --> 00:49:33,210
highly likely as well you know wait the

1102
00:49:37,310 --> 00:49:35,430
question I've been meaning to ask and I

1103
00:49:39,830 --> 00:49:37,320
just can't wait to hear your response on

1104
00:49:43,460 --> 00:49:39,840
this is recently we were given notice

1105
00:49:45,670 --> 00:49:43,470
that the location for Ted Phillips on

1106
00:49:50,510 --> 00:49:45,680
going Marley woods project has been

1107
00:49:53,270 --> 00:49:50,520
outed by by some folks there I think you

1108
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:53,280
were involved in that decision no I'm

1109
00:50:00,560 --> 00:49:56,130
not you're not okay well anything about

1110
00:50:02,930 --> 00:50:00,570
this other Missouri investigators did a

1111
00:50:05,030 --> 00:50:02,940
post and put precise directions on how

1112
00:50:09,260 --> 00:50:05,040
to get to the to the site I was

1113
00:50:11,150 --> 00:50:09,270
wondering if you had any for the you

1114
00:50:15,590 --> 00:50:11,160
know information about that decision or

1115
00:50:17,510 --> 00:50:15,600
not no that's that's unfortunate I will

1116
00:50:21,860 --> 00:50:17,520
now have to look into that and see who's

1117
00:50:26,450 --> 00:50:21,870
responsible and why but you know in in

1118
00:50:31,030 --> 00:50:26,460
ufology there unfortunately are a lot of

1119
00:50:33,350 --> 00:50:31,040
people who just enjoy controversy and

1120
00:50:35,630 --> 00:50:33,360
they look you know one just what caused

1121
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problems for other people and what their

1122
00:50:42,170 --> 00:50:38,280
reasoning is behind it that one can only

1123
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:42,180
guess but you know there there are some

1124
00:50:48,770 --> 00:50:45,290
pretty nasty people out there who had

1125
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:48,780
have you know attempted to do bad things

1126
00:50:53,450 --> 00:50:51,210
to people and it's unfortunate because

1127
00:50:58,100 --> 00:50:53,460
Ted has worked on that case for many

1128
00:50:59,960 --> 00:50:58,110
many years and other people his team has

1129
00:51:01,880 --> 00:50:59,970
Debbie's oogle Maier has been out there

1130
00:51:04,490 --> 00:51:01,890
she's our state director for Missouri

1131
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:04,500
MUFON and of course her brother Chuck

1132
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:08,370
Zukowski and they had only invited a few

1133
00:51:13,340 --> 00:51:10,410
people out you know for a reason and

1134
00:51:15,350 --> 00:51:13,350
that's to protect the people who live

1135
00:51:16,370 --> 00:51:15,360
there and we're talking about their

1136
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:16,380
private proper

1137
00:51:20,450 --> 00:51:18,690
Margie let's do our break and then we'll

1138
00:51:23,210 --> 00:51:20,460
go into more of this marley woods in the

1139
00:51:25,670 --> 00:51:23,220
revelation of its location UFO

1140
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investigator cryptozoologist psychic

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Plus that the para cast com Margy Kate

1214
00:54:59,779 --> 00:54:56,759
we were talking in our last segment

1215
00:55:00,739 --> 00:54:59,789
briefly about Marley woods and your

1216
00:55:03,289 --> 00:55:00,749
involvement in that

1217
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:03,299
so you're saying here that obviously Ted

1218
00:55:06,559 --> 00:55:05,130
Phillips didn't want this disclosure and

1219
00:55:09,470 --> 00:55:06,569
you people didn't want this disclosure

1220
00:55:11,690 --> 00:55:09,480
so how did it come well I don't know I I

1221
00:55:13,309 --> 00:55:11,700
don't know who's responsible that's

1222
00:55:15,109 --> 00:55:13,319
something I'm gonna have to look into I

1223
00:55:17,509 --> 00:55:15,119
don't think it's through Missouri MUFON

1224
00:55:18,470 --> 00:55:17,519
I can't imagine that it has to be

1225
00:55:21,170 --> 00:55:18,480
another group

1226
00:55:23,259 --> 00:55:21,180
I mean I'm gonna find this post and go

1227
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:23,269
ahead and forward it to you okay okay

1228
00:55:28,370 --> 00:55:25,410
yeah I'd like to see the houses that

1229
00:55:30,710 --> 00:55:28,380
will help nobody that I know would would

1230
00:55:31,249 --> 00:55:30,720
do that that you know it's private

1231
00:55:34,519 --> 00:55:31,259
property

1232
00:55:37,279 --> 00:55:34,529
the owners have enough problems up there

1233
00:55:40,940 --> 00:55:37,289
they they've all had you know Bigfoot

1234
00:55:43,849 --> 00:55:40,950
they've had unseen things that they walk

1235
00:55:47,150 --> 00:55:43,859
into there's possibly portals out there

1236
00:55:51,380 --> 00:55:47,160
and of course these strange lights which

1237
00:55:53,720 --> 00:55:51,390
are really all along that area which

1238
00:55:56,599 --> 00:55:53,730
include not only the Marley woods which

1239
00:56:01,579 --> 00:55:56,609
is in Southeast Missouri but if you

1240
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:01,589
follow 39 degrees latitude and go to the

1241
00:56:06,950 --> 00:56:04,650
left are to the west you'll see the

1242
00:56:08,990 --> 00:56:06,960
Joplin Neosho area where we have the

1243
00:56:11,990 --> 00:56:09,000
famous drop on spook lie that's

1244
00:56:15,380 --> 00:56:12,000
been there for over 200 years documented

1245
00:56:16,850 --> 00:56:15,390
and that's very similar and and in the

1246
00:56:19,670 --> 00:56:16,860
Joplin spooklight it's not just one

1247
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:19,680
light it spits multiple lights that can

1248
00:56:26,540 --> 00:56:21,690
appear I've seen it myself

1249
00:56:29,270 --> 00:56:26,550
and it's very strange so and then if you

1250
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:29,280
just keep following over all along that

1251
00:56:35,900 --> 00:56:32,610
line we kind of call that a paranormal

1252
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:35,910
highway of sorts there you know the

1253
00:56:41,810 --> 00:56:39,330
Piedmont UFO flap in the 1970s which is

1254
00:56:45,140 --> 00:56:41,820
still ongoing that a lot of people don't

1255
00:56:46,730 --> 00:56:45,150
realize they just basically stopped

1256
00:56:48,220 --> 00:56:46,740
making reports because they didn't want

1257
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:48,230
people make fun of them

1258
00:56:56,060 --> 00:56:52,050
and just all along there are 39 degrees

1259
00:57:00,260 --> 00:56:56,070
and also 38 degrees in 39 we also have

1260
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:00,270
most of our paranormal things Bigfoot

1261
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:03,450
cattle mutilations UFOs it just seems to

1262
00:57:07,700 --> 00:57:06,090
follow those lines what attitude so when

1263
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:07,710
do you think we're going to hear more

1264
00:57:11,540 --> 00:57:09,930
information now about Marley woods now

1265
00:57:13,130 --> 00:57:11,550
that this thing has been outed I mean

1266
00:57:15,890 --> 00:57:13,140
that's a genie you can't put back in the

1267
00:57:19,250 --> 00:57:15,900
bottle well no and I'm sure that's going

1268
00:57:22,700 --> 00:57:19,260
to cause problems because the homeowners

1269
00:57:24,350 --> 00:57:22,710
want their privacy and the only reason

1270
00:57:26,270 --> 00:57:24,360
that they let anyone come out during the

1271
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:26,280
first place is if they promised they

1272
00:57:31,730 --> 00:57:28,410
would not let anyone know where it is

1273
00:57:35,930 --> 00:57:31,740
it's not just one spot it's multiple

1274
00:57:38,180 --> 00:57:35,940
sites but it's in a general area where

1275
00:57:39,740 --> 00:57:38,190
this happens so now I'm sure they're

1276
00:57:41,180 --> 00:57:39,750
going to be inundated with people and

1277
00:57:43,820 --> 00:57:41,190
trespassers and it's just going to be a

1278
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:43,830
major problem kind of be like skinwalker

1279
00:57:48,860 --> 00:57:46,890
ranch then well I don't know I hope it

1280
00:57:52,420 --> 00:57:48,870
doesn't turn out that way it's kind of a

1281
00:57:55,490 --> 00:57:52,430
remote area but you know there are

1282
00:57:55,910 --> 00:57:55,500
diehards who will go out yeah that's

1283
00:57:57,110 --> 00:57:55,920
true

1284
00:58:01,100 --> 00:57:57,120
who's involved with the Missouri

1285
00:58:05,500 --> 00:58:01,110
investigators group well as far as I

1286
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:05,510
know barb Becker had set up huh yeah

1287
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:08,930
she's the one it's on their website a

1288
00:58:19,820 --> 00:58:17,730
UFO MIG dot y o LS a si te comm and it's

1289
00:58:22,279 --> 00:58:19,830
titled where in the world is Marly woods

1290
00:58:24,169 --> 00:58:22,289
and then there's a complete

1291
00:58:27,890 --> 00:58:24,179
maps and instructions on how to get

1292
00:58:29,599 --> 00:58:27,900
there how mightiness yeah it's been out

1293
00:58:32,509 --> 00:58:29,609
for a while this came out do a couple

1294
00:58:35,599 --> 00:58:32,519
months ago I think you know I didn't

1295
00:58:37,279 --> 00:58:35,609
know anything about it yeah yeah barn

1296
00:58:42,169 --> 00:58:37,289
she's the one that has the Facebook side

1297
00:58:46,130 --> 00:58:42,179
correct I think it's uh I don't follow

1298
00:58:49,130 --> 00:58:46,140
them so I don't know yeah okay yeah it's

1299
00:58:50,709 --> 00:58:49,140
it's well Ted you know he he really has

1300
00:58:53,359 --> 00:58:50,719
been kind of dragging his feet on and I

1301
00:58:55,549 --> 00:58:53,369
realized that his health has been been

1302
00:58:59,299 --> 00:58:55,559
an issue on and off over the years and

1303
00:59:02,620 --> 00:58:59,309
and of course as you mentioned often

1304
00:59:05,359 --> 00:59:02,630
times people who you have a long-term

1305
00:59:09,159 --> 00:59:05,369
commitment to in terms of investigation

1306
00:59:11,719 --> 00:59:09,169
they do oftentimes want their privacy

1307
00:59:15,289 --> 00:59:11,729
protected and in some some senses of

1308
00:59:19,219 --> 00:59:15,299
anonymity but it it just I think the

1309
00:59:20,630 --> 00:59:19,229
case the case because of its notoriety I

1310
00:59:23,419 --> 00:59:20,640
think has attracted a lot of attention

1311
00:59:26,599 --> 00:59:23,429
out there and it was inevitable that

1312
00:59:29,479 --> 00:59:26,609
somebody would would do this because Ted

1313
00:59:31,130 --> 00:59:29,489
really hasn't been as active out there I

1314
00:59:33,829 --> 00:59:31,140
mean the case has been ongoing for how

1315
00:59:37,969 --> 00:59:33,839
long they're almost 20 years I'd say 30

1316
00:59:39,499 --> 00:59:37,979
years yeah hmm so and the the light they

1317
00:59:42,169 --> 00:59:39,509
know the lights have been documented

1318
00:59:43,939 --> 00:59:42,179
over 200 years ago yeah Wow

1319
00:59:47,839 --> 00:59:43,949
that's enough to whet people's appetite

1320
00:59:53,719 --> 00:59:47,849
now of course the proverbial cat is out

1321
00:59:55,069 --> 00:59:53,729
of schrödinger's box so might might get

1322
00:59:56,559 --> 00:59:55,079
a little interesting out there before it

1323
00:59:58,909 --> 00:59:56,569
calms down

1324
01:00:00,589 --> 00:59:58,919
yes do we have a couple of questions

1325
01:00:03,979 --> 01:00:00,599
from our audience you want to drop in

1326
01:00:06,199 --> 01:00:03,989
here before we go on oh yeah I could let

1327
01:00:08,539 --> 01:00:06,209
me explain to our listeners here and to

1328
01:00:10,579 --> 01:00:08,549
margie that before we schedule an

1329
01:00:12,679 --> 01:00:10,589
episode before we do the recording

1330
01:00:16,189 --> 01:00:12,689
session we give our listeners a chance

1331
01:00:19,009 --> 01:00:16,199
to ask questions and they go to forum

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01:00:20,239 --> 01:00:19,019
dot the podcast come to our forums we

1333
01:00:23,390 --> 01:00:20,249
have a place there called the question

1334
01:00:24,769 --> 01:00:23,400
Bank and we open a topic or thread about

1335
01:00:26,689 --> 01:00:24,779
the guest so we've gotten a few

1336
01:00:29,589 --> 01:00:26,699
questions one we're gonna hold over to a

1337
01:00:32,029 --> 01:00:29,599
little bit later since it relates to the

1338
01:00:34,609 --> 01:00:32,039
Missouri MUFON but right now Chris you

1339
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:34,619
have a couple of questions well this is

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a good one from Ravens fee who

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been a poster at forum dr. Peric ascom

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since the end of May 2014 and Margie

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have brought him brought her out of the

1344
01:00:48,020 --> 01:00:46,350
out of the woodwork she doesn't post

1345
01:00:50,270 --> 01:00:48,030
very much but she has a question for you

1346
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:50,280
and this is a good kind of a general

1347
01:00:54,650 --> 01:00:52,170
question to get your thinking on this

1348
01:00:57,170 --> 01:00:54,660
and she's wondering if the paranormal

1349
01:01:00,670 --> 01:00:57,180
UFOs ESP remote-viewing could all be

1350
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:00,680
aspects of the same one phenomenon if so

1351
01:01:06,260 --> 01:01:03,930
what is its underlying basis and if not

1352
01:01:09,310 --> 01:01:06,270
why do we often see an overlap in these

1353
01:01:10,730 --> 01:01:09,320
subjects in witness's reports and and

1354
01:01:13,850 --> 01:01:10,740
what not

1355
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:13,860
well I do have an opinion about that and

1356
01:01:19,790 --> 01:01:17,250
as I have worked through all of these

1357
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:19,800
things all of these different things all

1358
01:01:25,820 --> 01:01:22,650
these years I have found some things in

1359
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:25,830
common and so I'm leaning more and more

1360
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:28,530
towards the thinking that a lot of

1361
01:01:34,790 --> 01:01:31,170
people are and that is we are dealing

1362
01:01:38,090 --> 01:01:34,800
with the same sorts of things and I

1363
01:01:40,700 --> 01:01:38,100
believe what it is is that there are

1364
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:40,710
other dimensions and so we're dealing

1365
01:01:45,620 --> 01:01:43,410
with our third dimension and then fourth

1366
01:01:49,330 --> 01:01:45,630
dimension time and the next one up is

1367
01:01:54,100 --> 01:01:49,340
fifth dimension well that is where I see

1368
01:01:56,540 --> 01:01:54,110
spirits I also see extraterrestrials

1369
01:02:00,020 --> 01:01:56,550
coming through the fifth dimension from

1370
01:02:01,940 --> 01:02:00,030
the six down two R's down to our third

1371
01:02:04,970 --> 01:02:01,950
and fourth dimension all right now Joe

1372
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:04,980
we're going ahead of ourselves here you

1373
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:07,050
talk about a fifth dimension and a sixth

1374
01:02:11,570 --> 01:02:08,970
dimension what are they and how do you

1375
01:02:15,770 --> 01:02:11,580
know they're coming down from them well

1376
01:02:18,770 --> 01:02:15,780
it's a matter of vibration and I this is

1377
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:18,780
what I see when I go into a light trance

1378
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:22,650
state then I that's when I can contact

1379
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:26,130
the other realms well the first realm is

1380
01:02:33,890 --> 01:02:29,250
fifth dimension that's close to us and

1381
01:02:36,020 --> 01:02:33,900
that is where spirits are okay but how

1382
01:02:37,610 --> 01:02:36,030
do we know that Margie please how do you

1383
01:02:39,710 --> 01:02:37,620
know that spirits are in the fifth

1384
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:39,720
dimension because that's what they've

1385
01:02:44,330 --> 01:02:41,730
told me this is you know of course my

1386
01:02:47,390 --> 01:02:44,340
opinion based on what the spirits have

1387
01:02:52,020 --> 01:02:47,400
told me and what I have experienced

1388
01:02:58,180 --> 01:02:56,470
when it's a matter of vibration so we

1389
01:03:00,250 --> 01:02:58,190
have a certain vibration at third

1390
01:03:02,140 --> 01:03:00,260
dimension and then a higher vibration at

1391
01:03:08,980 --> 01:03:02,150
fourth and fifth dimension

1392
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:08,990
okay I vibrate at a higher rate than say

1393
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:11,570
the general public population does there

1394
01:03:16,150 --> 01:03:13,970
are a lot of people like me but we just

1395
01:03:18,490 --> 01:03:16,160
we vibrate at a higher rate so that's

1396
01:03:20,609 --> 01:03:18,500
why we're able to see and speak to

1397
01:03:23,050 --> 01:03:20,619
people who have crossed over and

1398
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:23,060
extraterrestrials now at the risk of

1399
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:24,050
being flippant

1400
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:26,570
when I hear fifth dimension I don't

1401
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:29,450
think of the vocal group I think of the

1402
01:03:34,150 --> 01:03:31,730
character and the Superman comics who

1403
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:34,160
says his name backwards and then returns

1404
01:03:38,410 --> 01:03:36,530
to the fifth dimension let's go on with

1405
01:03:40,780 --> 01:03:38,420
that moment we have to do our break here

1406
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there's the coming of the protectors a

1422
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1423
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contacted by a space woman in a dream a

1424
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dream that turns out to be a nightmare

1425
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because evil forces on our distant

1426
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planet are planning to conquer the earth

1427
01:04:38,470 --> 01:04:36,020
this is gripping science fiction of the

1428
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classic kind attack of the rock OIG's

1429
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and the coming of the protectors

1430
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find out more at Rocko it's calm that's

1431
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rock oh it's our Ock oids calm have you

1432
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ever felt like the United States

1433
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:50,000
government knows way too much about your

1434
01:04:54,220 --> 01:04:52,010
financial affairs I continue to hear

1435
01:04:56,260 --> 01:04:54,230
stories of our property seizures frozen

1436
01:04:58,180 --> 01:04:56,270
bank accounts confiscation of stocks and

1437
01:05:00,100 --> 01:04:58,190
bonds it makes me wonder if the US

1438
01:05:01,780 --> 01:05:00,110
citizen will ever again have the right

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01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:01,790
- life liberty and the pursuit of

1440
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happiness unfortunately with the drug

1441
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and money laundering Act the IRS Revenue

1442
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Ruling 60-45 of 1984 and the trading

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with the enemy act in Franklin D

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Roosevelt executive order of 1933 some

1445
01:05:17,350 --> 01:05:15,290
precious metal holdings are subject to

1446
01:05:19,060 --> 01:05:17,360
government intervention for this reason

1447
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:19,070
- resources has prepared a report

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01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:20,810
exploiting the boundaries of trading

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01:05:24,580 --> 01:05:22,730
precious metals privately whether if you

1450
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have any intention of trading with Midas

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resources or not I've instructed my

1452
01:05:34,850 --> 01:05:27,890
representatives to give this report out

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trying to scare you into signing one of

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1497
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para cast calm okay so let's put this

1498
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:15,060
together here fifth dimensions for

1499
01:08:20,210 --> 01:08:17,850
psychics six dimensions etc can you

1500
01:08:22,430 --> 01:08:20,220
explain to me I'm still not sure about

1501
01:08:24,530 --> 01:08:22,440
this Margie how we know there's a fifth

1502
01:08:26,690 --> 01:08:24,540
dimension and how do we know this fifth

1503
01:08:29,570 --> 01:08:26,700
dimension encompasses these abilities or

1504
01:08:31,070 --> 01:08:29,580
you're just basically assuming well I

1505
01:08:33,740 --> 01:08:31,080
don't think I'm assuming because I

1506
01:08:35,300 --> 01:08:33,750
experienced it myself right but having

1507
01:08:38,570 --> 01:08:35,310
an experience doesn't give you the cause

1508
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:38,580
does it well you know science now

1509
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:40,650
scientists say they think there's at

1510
01:08:44,690 --> 01:08:43,050
least 10 or 12 dimension Einstein said

1511
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:44,700
there were probably twelve dimensions

1512
01:08:49,430 --> 01:08:47,010
and now they're thinking it could be

1513
01:08:52,460 --> 01:08:49,440
infinite number of dimensions but what

1514
01:08:54,230 --> 01:08:52,470
that means is it's like it's it's the

1515
01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:54,240
same space but it's at a higher

1516
01:08:59,420 --> 01:08:57,330
vibration so you could have an

1517
01:09:02,150 --> 01:08:59,430
extraterrestrial standing right next to

1518
01:09:05,140 --> 01:09:02,160
you and not know it but he can see you

1519
01:09:07,460 --> 01:09:05,150
because it's the higher dimension see

1520
01:09:09,980 --> 01:09:07,470
everything from their dimension on down

1521
01:09:12,020 --> 01:09:09,990
this gets very very complicated and it's

1522
01:09:15,410 --> 01:09:12,030
certainly not something you know that we

1523
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:15,420
can go into very very deeply on on a

1524
01:09:22,310 --> 01:09:19,290
radio show but just you know in summary

1525
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:22,320
that's my experience okay so the long

1526
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:23,970
and short of it is without going into

1527
01:09:28,490 --> 01:09:26,610
the tale that we're not dismissing the

1528
01:09:30,500 --> 01:09:28,500
possibility of multiple dimensions but

1529
01:09:33,410 --> 01:09:30,510
this is your assumption your belief

1530
01:09:34,100 --> 01:09:33,420
right I'm that correct okay just just

1531
01:09:36,290 --> 01:09:34,110
why can't I

1532
01:09:37,970 --> 01:09:36,300
okay okay I can't say the facts because

1533
01:09:40,220 --> 01:09:37,980
I I don't know that it's a fact it's

1534
01:09:42,050 --> 01:09:40,230
just my experience okay now with regard

1535
01:09:43,940 --> 01:09:42,060
to the origin of UFOs and we've

1536
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:43,950
discussed before the possibility that

1537
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:47,610
some UFOs are test aircraft obviously we

1538
01:09:50,930 --> 01:09:48,930
know that most sightings are

1539
01:09:53,480 --> 01:09:50,940
conventional in one respect or another

1540
01:09:56,330 --> 01:09:53,490
visit residual that five or ten percent

1541
01:10:00,680 --> 01:09:56,340
of sightings that are unknown how do we

1542
01:10:03,110 --> 01:10:00,690
know it CT out there well we don't

1543
01:10:06,110 --> 01:10:03,120
because once you start thinking about

1544
01:10:08,930 --> 01:10:06,120
what it could possibly be could it be

1545
01:10:13,730 --> 01:10:08,940
something from off-planet from another

1546
01:10:14,420 --> 01:10:13,740
solar system could be what about another

1547
01:10:18,730 --> 01:10:14,430
dimension

1548
01:10:21,830 --> 01:10:18,740
and what about they are living among us

1549
01:10:24,410 --> 01:10:21,840
they look human they're part human they

1550
01:10:24,710 --> 01:10:24,420
are humans they're just from somewhere

1551
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:24,720
else

1552
01:10:30,010 --> 01:10:28,050
and let me remind us all of those things

1553
01:10:33,170 --> 01:10:30,020
are possibilities and I don't think

1554
01:10:36,170 --> 01:10:33,180
anybody has definitive proof of any of

1555
01:10:39,220 --> 01:10:36,180
that now with the exception of some of

1556
01:10:42,170 --> 01:10:39,230
the artifacts that have been found that

1557
01:10:44,870 --> 01:10:42,180
appear to be off planet and they with

1558
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:44,880
scientific testing know that some of

1559
01:10:50,420 --> 01:10:47,610
these materials are not from here we

1560
01:10:52,940 --> 01:10:50,430
talked about idea rights or what no I'm

1561
01:10:55,190 --> 01:10:52,950
talking about pieces of UFOs that have

1562
01:10:59,600 --> 01:10:55,200
fallen off say like the bobwhite object

1563
01:11:03,110 --> 01:10:59,610
and it was tested he he saw this UFO

1564
01:11:05,330 --> 01:11:03,120
land it was in distress and some of

1565
01:11:07,550 --> 01:11:05,340
pieces of it were melting and falling on

1566
01:11:11,090 --> 01:11:07,560
the ground he went over and picked one

1567
01:11:14,060 --> 01:11:11,100
up it's about 12 inch long object he

1568
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:14,070
took it back and over the years when he

1569
01:11:17,990 --> 01:11:15,810
was finally able to get funding for it

1570
01:11:21,380 --> 01:11:18,000
they've had testing done on it in recent

1571
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:21,390
years well it's almost 100% pure

1572
01:11:27,530 --> 01:11:25,290
aluminum and it's not other alloys that

1573
01:11:29,630 --> 01:11:27,540
are not found on the earth that would

1574
01:11:31,490 --> 01:11:29,640
lead you to believe here's some physical

1575
01:11:31,700 --> 01:11:31,500
evidence or something that is not from

1576
01:11:34,220 --> 01:11:31,710
here

1577
01:11:38,330 --> 01:11:34,230
let me just our listeners we did present

1578
01:11:42,230 --> 01:11:38,340
the late Bob white on the para casts way

1579
01:11:44,300 --> 01:11:42,240
back on August 1st 2006 along with the

1580
01:11:46,130 --> 01:11:44,310
late dr. Jesse Marcel jr. as a matter of

1581
01:11:48,380 --> 01:11:46,140
fact that episode is still available

1582
01:11:50,540 --> 01:11:48,390
online for want to hear it Bob White's

1583
01:11:52,910 --> 01:11:50,550
book called UFO hard evidence and I

1584
01:11:55,130 --> 01:11:52,920
think the only dispute we heard about it

1585
01:11:58,040 --> 01:11:55,140
was that some people were arguing over

1586
01:11:59,480 --> 01:11:58,050
the purity of the aluminum but still

1587
01:12:01,700 --> 01:11:59,490
that's the case that I don't think it's

1588
01:12:03,440 --> 01:12:01,710
been fully resolved yet right except

1589
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:03,450
that in the last couple of years there's

1590
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:05,250
been more testing done on it it's

1591
01:12:09,620 --> 01:12:07,290
significant so I would encourage

1592
01:12:11,810 --> 01:12:09,630
listeners to look into that I did an

1593
01:12:14,450 --> 01:12:11,820
article on that in NX news magazine a

1594
01:12:17,390 --> 01:12:14,460
couple of years ago and

1595
01:12:20,090 --> 01:12:17,400
have those lighter results in there okay

1596
01:12:22,100 --> 01:12:20,100
perhaps you can push a direct link on

1597
01:12:24,229 --> 01:12:22,110
your homepage to it so when our

1598
01:12:27,890 --> 01:12:24,239
listeners check it out we'll include the

1599
01:12:29,930 --> 01:12:27,900
location of your magazine site then they

1600
01:12:33,110 --> 01:12:29,940
can check it out further and they could

1601
01:12:36,229 --> 01:12:33,120
see and look into it okay so the long

1602
01:12:37,820 --> 01:12:36,239
and short of it is UFOs may be et but

1603
01:12:39,470 --> 01:12:37,830
you're not hairy percent sure I don't

1604
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:39,480
think anybody is they could be

1605
01:12:43,970 --> 01:12:42,690
interdimensional interplanetary whatever

1606
01:12:46,910 --> 01:12:43,980
we don't know we know it's something

1607
01:12:50,450 --> 01:12:46,920
strange odd is going on is that fair to

1608
01:12:53,870 --> 01:12:50,460
say that doesn't get you into trouble

1609
01:12:58,180 --> 01:12:53,880
but so unfortunate here that we do see

1610
01:13:02,240 --> 01:12:58,190
so many fanciful claims in the UFO field

1611
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:02,250
semi wacky claims and part of it is you

1612
01:13:07,729 --> 01:13:05,130
know with UFO context is very very

1613
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:07,739
controversial so for example UFO

1614
01:13:12,110 --> 01:13:09,930
abductions we've had a number of

1615
01:13:14,420 --> 01:13:12,120
discussions over the years about that we

1616
01:13:15,979 --> 01:13:14,430
had the late Budd Hopkins dr. David

1617
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:15,989
Jacobs who by the way has worked on a

1618
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:18,210
new book I don't know when that's coming

1619
01:13:23,750 --> 01:13:21,090
out we've also had people like Kathleen

1620
01:13:25,940 --> 01:13:23,760
Mardon the niece of the late Betty Hill

1621
01:13:28,250 --> 01:13:25,950
she's been on the show a number of times

1622
01:13:31,220 --> 01:13:28,260
what is your take about abductions do

1623
01:13:34,580 --> 01:13:31,230
you think it's reflective of contact

1624
01:13:36,050 --> 01:13:34,590
with some higher being et or maybe an

1625
01:13:39,110 --> 01:13:36,060
experience that the people involved

1626
01:13:42,860 --> 01:13:39,120
don't really even understand it's all of

1627
01:13:45,770 --> 01:13:42,870
the above plus probably the number of

1628
01:13:50,090 --> 01:13:45,780
them are abductions by our own military

1629
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:50,100
I have a number of my witnesses who have

1630
01:13:56,900 --> 01:13:53,370
said they have awakened from some kind

1631
01:14:00,080 --> 01:13:56,910
of a stupor and they were in a room with

1632
01:14:04,250 --> 01:14:00,090
all human beings with military uniforms

1633
01:14:07,430 --> 01:14:04,260
on I've had one case where the person

1634
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:07,440
was standing in a line in a large large

1635
01:14:17,030 --> 01:14:12,530
warehouse and she partially awoke and a

1636
01:14:17,780 --> 01:14:17,040
guard came over to assist her and said

1637
01:14:20,030 --> 01:14:17,790
oh she's awake

1638
01:14:23,420 --> 01:14:20,040
and then she was immediately out again

1639
01:14:26,630 --> 01:14:23,430
and then found herself in a you know in

1640
01:14:28,340 --> 01:14:26,640
her bedroom that these cases sometimes

1641
01:14:30,410 --> 01:14:28,350
they're only

1642
01:14:32,090 --> 01:14:30,420
military that people see and sometimes

1643
01:14:35,740 --> 01:14:32,100
there's something else that looks

1644
01:14:39,110 --> 01:14:35,750
nonhuman along with them so I think

1645
01:14:41,900 --> 01:14:39,120
we're dealing with probably all of the

1646
01:14:45,170 --> 01:14:41,910
above scenarios makes it real confusing

1647
01:14:46,940 --> 01:14:45,180
to try to figure it out so what in your

1648
01:14:49,610 --> 01:14:46,950
opinion what why would the military do

1649
01:14:53,390 --> 01:14:49,620
that what possible rationale could they

1650
01:14:55,970 --> 01:14:53,400
have to to abduct people and wipe their

1651
01:15:00,290 --> 01:14:55,980
memories and that sort of thing well

1652
01:15:02,150 --> 01:15:00,300
you've heard of the Manchurian Candidate

1653
01:15:08,390 --> 01:15:02,160
very much so

1654
01:15:10,700 --> 01:15:08,400
okay so we know that our government you

1655
01:15:14,870 --> 01:15:10,710
know that we there is technology that

1656
01:15:16,610 --> 01:15:14,880
can control minds I believe that what

1657
01:15:20,870 --> 01:15:16,620
they're doing is putting some type of an

1658
01:15:23,390 --> 01:15:20,880
implant in people and now I'm thinking

1659
01:15:27,290 --> 01:15:23,400
it's probably everybody not just a few

1660
01:15:31,670 --> 01:15:27,300
people that it is control of the masses

1661
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:31,680
and just as an example I had had several

1662
01:15:36,590 --> 01:15:34,650
people I know tell me that they have

1663
01:15:39,500 --> 01:15:36,600
suddenly had this thought come in their

1664
01:15:41,570 --> 01:15:39,510
head that they know is not their own

1665
01:15:45,260 --> 01:15:41,580
thought there's something so bizarre and

1666
01:15:47,300 --> 01:15:45,270
so far out that they knew it wasn't a

1667
01:15:49,340 --> 01:15:47,310
real thought that they were having I

1668
01:15:51,650 --> 01:15:49,350
believe they were targeted because there

1669
01:15:54,410 --> 01:15:51,660
are UFO researchers and they may be

1670
01:15:56,930 --> 01:15:54,420
getting too close to something but we

1671
01:15:59,030 --> 01:15:56,940
know the technology is there I really

1672
01:16:00,460 --> 01:15:59,040
believe that that is what happening is

1673
01:16:02,990 --> 01:16:00,470
happening I don't have any proof of that

1674
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:03,000
the only time I can prove something is

1675
01:16:07,220 --> 01:16:05,130
if someone has something in their body

1676
01:16:09,380 --> 01:16:07,230
that shouldn't be there when we run an

1677
01:16:11,930 --> 01:16:09,390
EMF meter over it and goes off like

1678
01:16:13,820 --> 01:16:11,940
crazy or a metal detector

1679
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:13,830
for instance I belong to an et

1680
01:16:18,530 --> 01:16:15,810
experiencers group here in Kansas City

1681
01:16:20,030 --> 01:16:18,540
we have about 20 members and these are

1682
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:20,040
all people who believe they've been in

1683
01:16:24,050 --> 01:16:22,170
direct contact with extraterrestrials

1684
01:16:26,060 --> 01:16:24,060
let's find out more about that in our

1685
01:16:29,230 --> 01:16:26,070
next segment with Margie kay and Jean

1686
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:29,240
and Kris talking about UFO abductions

1687
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:39,970
the nation's largest independently owned

1688
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1691
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1693
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1705
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1706
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1707
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1708
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stating a central bank issuing the

1709
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1710
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the liberties of the people than a

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1775
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1776
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engraving can bed strips and fibers to

1777
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protect from counterfeit than carding to

1778
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a private bank having a lead packet

1779
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interest

1780
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:28,070
forcing taxes to service debt this

1781
01:20:31,390 --> 01:20:29,930
capitalism or was Jefferson correct when

1782
01:20:33,010 --> 01:20:31,400
stating a central bank issuing the

1783
01:20:34,150 --> 01:20:33,020
public currency is a greater menace to

1784
01:20:35,950 --> 01:20:34,160
the liberties of the people than a

1785
01:20:37,330 --> 01:20:35,960
standing army hi Ted Anderson I'm

1786
01:20:39,490 --> 01:20:37,340
placing a silver dollar in a book

1787
01:20:42,820 --> 01:20:39,500
explains our monetary system call for

1788
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your copy 800 686 to 237 it's time to

1789
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understand the system call 866 to 237

1790
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[Music]

1791
01:21:15,270 --> 01:21:12,970
so Margie K is speaking about this group

1792
01:21:17,940 --> 01:21:15,280
you're a member of twenty people who

1793
01:21:19,170 --> 01:21:17,950
have had kind of UFO contact and/or

1794
01:21:22,980 --> 01:21:19,180
abduction experiences

1795
01:21:25,650 --> 01:21:22,990
now when you raise this point about the

1796
01:21:28,050 --> 01:21:25,660
possibility it's a put-up job and we

1797
01:21:32,430 --> 01:21:28,060
mentioned MKULTRA and stuff programs

1798
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:32,440
from mind control back in the 60s 50 60s

1799
01:21:37,020 --> 01:21:33,250
and 70s

1800
01:21:40,740 --> 01:21:37,030
so the argument here I wonder is are

1801
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:40,750
some of the prominent flying saucer UFO

1802
01:21:45,630 --> 01:21:43,690
abductions like your Barney and Betty

1803
01:21:48,330 --> 01:21:45,640
Hill couple who lived near a military

1804
01:21:50,580 --> 01:21:48,340
base what about that case is that

1805
01:21:53,730 --> 01:21:50,590
possibly a put-up job by the military I

1806
01:21:55,140 --> 01:21:53,740
know certainly Kathleen Martin will give

1807
01:21:58,580 --> 01:21:55,150
us chapter and verse as to why it

1808
01:22:03,420 --> 01:21:58,590
couldn't be yes but if you'll remember

1809
01:22:08,190 --> 01:22:03,430
Betty describes seeing men in military

1810
01:22:09,810 --> 01:22:08,200
uniform in military vehicles around the

1811
01:22:13,230 --> 01:22:09,820
area where they needed to stop with a

1812
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:13,240
barricade so I believe it's both I

1813
01:22:19,860 --> 01:22:16,330
believe that in the Betty Hill case and

1814
01:22:22,650 --> 01:22:19,870
Barney Hill that there were her we know

1815
01:22:24,750 --> 01:22:22,660
there were military involved in speaking

1816
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:24,760
to her to both of them after the

1817
01:22:28,980 --> 01:22:26,890
incident and keeping in contact with

1818
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:28,990
them for some time in fact the military

1819
01:22:36,930 --> 01:22:33,010
was out at their house and they saw UFOs

1820
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:36,940
on site so they were interested in

1821
01:22:43,410 --> 01:22:39,010
investigating the case but they're

1822
01:22:45,330 --> 01:22:43,420
worried TVs involved most likely where

1823
01:22:48,480 --> 01:22:45,340
would the et's be involved then the

1824
01:22:51,930 --> 01:22:48,490
actual contact the the contact and the

1825
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:51,940
abduction and the ongoing contact and

1826
01:22:57,620 --> 01:22:54,250
telepathic contact not necessarily in

1827
01:23:01,170 --> 01:22:57,630
person all the time that telepathically

1828
01:23:04,710 --> 01:23:01,180
and they would be they would see them

1829
01:23:06,810 --> 01:23:04,720
quite often after that initial event

1830
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:06,820
they would see them in the skies and

1831
01:23:11,310 --> 01:23:09,370
coming up close now this is something

1832
01:23:13,980 --> 01:23:11,320
here we want to mention that after this

1833
01:23:15,750 --> 01:23:13,990
happened and of course Barney Hill only

1834
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:15,760
died a few years later

1835
01:23:19,530 --> 01:23:17,410
but after this episode Benny Hill

1836
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:19,540
throughout much of her life did report

1837
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:21,850
some sort of UFO related experience of

1838
01:23:27,660 --> 01:23:24,010
one sort different kinds of sightings

1839
01:23:30,450 --> 01:23:27,670
yes and she was also a cattle mutilation

1840
01:23:33,630 --> 01:23:30,460
investigator of sorts she investigated

1841
01:23:35,580 --> 01:23:33,640
the only known official report that was

1842
01:23:37,950 --> 01:23:35,590
filed in New Hampshire and it did a

1843
01:23:40,230 --> 01:23:37,960
pretty good job I might add well and

1844
01:23:43,830 --> 01:23:40,240
Kathleen Martin has done an excellent

1845
01:23:46,770 --> 01:23:43,840
job in researching and getting facts and

1846
01:23:49,290 --> 01:23:46,780
in fact I helped her out a bit with that

1847
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:49,300
case with some questions she had so I

1848
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:53,170
did remote viewing for her on Betty you

1849
01:23:57,330 --> 01:23:54,730
know that would be something she would

1850
01:24:00,090 --> 01:23:57,340
talk about if she wants to but it's an

1851
01:24:02,250 --> 01:24:00,100
interesting case and I believe she that

1852
01:24:05,430 --> 01:24:02,260
Betty had those experiences her entire

1853
01:24:09,030 --> 01:24:05,440
life as is common with a lot of people

1854
01:24:12,060 --> 01:24:09,040
when I just don't see cases where a

1855
01:24:14,580 --> 01:24:12,070
person has experienced one time it's

1856
01:24:17,310 --> 01:24:14,590
usually a lifelong thing so that leads

1857
01:24:21,450 --> 01:24:17,320
you to believe that they're following

1858
01:24:24,540 --> 01:24:21,460
certain families and interested somehow

1859
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:24,550
in DNA of those families and they're

1860
01:24:29,940 --> 01:24:27,370
involved in making enhancements or

1861
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:29,950
improvements probably is my opinion on

1862
01:24:36,030 --> 01:24:30,370
that

1863
01:24:38,550 --> 01:24:36,040
you believe there is a real contact with

1864
01:24:40,890 --> 01:24:38,560
some kind of unknown being possibly

1865
01:24:43,290 --> 01:24:40,900
extraterrestrial at the core of the

1866
01:24:45,420 --> 01:24:43,300
hills experience okay the thing I wonder

1867
01:24:47,550 --> 01:24:45,430
about always wonder about here is when

1868
01:24:49,530 --> 01:24:47,560
we hear about abductions we hear some

1869
01:24:52,830 --> 01:24:49,540
pretty outlandish description so for

1870
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:52,840
example some abductees report being

1871
01:24:59,220 --> 01:24:56,410
subjected to very primitive level DNA or

1872
01:25:01,670 --> 01:24:59,230
physical testing and you think et

1873
01:25:04,470 --> 01:25:01,680
they're advanced enough to come to earth

1874
01:25:06,540 --> 01:25:04,480
from who knows where why would they

1875
01:25:08,550 --> 01:25:06,550
engage in such primitive techniques

1876
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:08,560
wouldn't it be simple to take DNA

1877
01:25:14,670 --> 01:25:12,130
samples that are painless hardly aware

1878
01:25:16,590 --> 01:25:14,680
or present for the personal experiences

1879
01:25:19,530 --> 01:25:16,600
them I mean we could say well you have a

1880
01:25:22,350 --> 01:25:19,540
testing pretty simply without pain why

1881
01:25:24,330 --> 01:25:22,360
can't they yeah that's a good question

1882
01:25:26,310 --> 01:25:24,340
you know why don't they have a Star Trek

1883
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scanner you'd think that they would have

1884
01:25:30,220 --> 01:25:28,780
that kind of technology I don't have the

1885
01:25:33,220 --> 01:25:30,230
answer to that

1886
01:25:35,109 --> 01:25:33,230
it's it's people have different

1887
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experiences they sometimes have a very

1888
01:25:38,830 --> 01:25:37,219
positive experience where whatever

1889
01:25:41,169 --> 01:25:38,840
testing they're doing involves just

1890
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sitting in a chair and they had you know

1891
01:25:45,359 --> 01:25:42,949
have some equipment around them but it's

1892
01:25:48,129 --> 01:25:45,369
not invasive and then other people have

1893
01:25:50,649 --> 01:25:48,139
very negative experiences and they wake

1894
01:25:52,330 --> 01:25:50,659
up on a cold table and they're strapped

1895
01:25:54,879 --> 01:25:52,340
down and they're putting needles in

1896
01:25:58,540 --> 01:25:54,889
their eyes or whatever that's extremely

1897
01:26:00,700 --> 01:25:58,550
unpleasant and I for the life of me

1898
01:26:04,330 --> 01:26:00,710
can't know what the reason for that is

1899
01:26:07,450 --> 01:26:04,340
either but the fact is something is

1900
01:26:10,109 --> 01:26:07,460
going on and it's worldwide and masses

1901
01:26:12,339 --> 01:26:10,119
of people have had this experience so

1902
01:26:15,010 --> 01:26:12,349
you know we need to keep digging until

1903
01:26:17,140 --> 01:26:15,020
we find the answers now one thing I've

1904
01:26:19,959 --> 01:26:17,150
suggested from time to time is that and

1905
01:26:21,939 --> 01:26:19,969
I'm not alone in this theory that what

1906
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:21,949
they remember whether through hypnosis

1907
01:26:27,510 --> 01:26:24,530
or without hypnosis of the abduction

1908
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:27,520
experience is itself a planted memory

1909
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:30,170
that may have only a passing resemblance

1910
01:26:34,959 --> 01:26:32,210
to what really went on I mean how do we

1911
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:34,969
know well that's another thing once a

1912
01:26:42,220 --> 01:26:38,690
person gets into say therapy and they

1913
01:26:45,490 --> 01:26:42,230
have multiple regressions as time goes

1914
01:26:47,410 --> 01:26:45,500
on and they get deeper and deeper it

1915
01:26:51,069 --> 01:26:47,420
does sometimes show that there was a

1916
01:26:53,290 --> 01:26:51,079
screen memory and that was you know

1917
01:26:55,839 --> 01:26:53,300
hiding something else I mean it's much

1918
01:26:58,450 --> 01:26:55,849
more pleasant to remember a three-foot

1919
01:27:01,060 --> 01:26:58,460
owl than it is some strange creature

1920
01:27:03,010 --> 01:27:01,070
that looks very strange and freaks you

1921
01:27:05,050 --> 01:27:03,020
out yeah but I think you've got reversed

1922
01:27:07,930 --> 01:27:05,060
here as to what I'm saying I'm saying

1923
01:27:10,839 --> 01:27:07,940
that the deep down deeply buried

1924
01:27:12,700 --> 01:27:10,849
experience that is recovered may itself

1925
01:27:14,109 --> 01:27:12,710
be a screen memory for something else I

1926
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would think that beings that far

1927
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advanced would be able to engage in some

1928
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sort of mind control that we couldn't so

1929
01:27:24,750 --> 01:27:22,909
easily detect with a simple hypnotic

1930
01:27:28,540 --> 01:27:24,760
regression do you see where I'm going

1931
01:27:29,589 --> 01:27:28,550
yeah I do and and I agree there are a

1932
01:27:32,919 --> 01:27:29,599
lot of questions that are unanswered

1933
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about this and somebody may know the

1934
01:27:36,550 --> 01:27:34,550
answer somebody that's doing

1935
01:27:38,169 --> 01:27:36,560
mind-control in military myth know the

1936
01:27:42,399 --> 01:27:38,179
answers but they're not sharing it with

1937
01:27:43,540 --> 01:27:42,409
us so I don't know they could they could

1938
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:43,550
be screen memories

1939
01:27:49,359 --> 01:27:46,610
or something else yes okay now speaking

1940
01:27:52,149 --> 01:27:49,369
of any of these sightings at all is it

1941
01:27:54,370 --> 01:27:52,159
possible that what we see out there in

1942
01:27:57,069 --> 01:27:54,380
terms of being a UFO is itself the

1943
01:27:59,560 --> 01:27:57,079
actual event or something that's so

1944
01:28:02,220 --> 01:27:59,570
alien to us we can't interpret it or

1945
01:28:05,470 --> 01:28:02,230
something they put on for our benefit

1946
01:28:08,470 --> 01:28:05,480
yes and sometimes you they put on a big

1947
01:28:10,839 --> 01:28:08,480
show for us so you have to wonder why

1948
01:28:12,790 --> 01:28:10,849
they're being so obvious so obviously

1949
01:28:15,689 --> 01:28:12,800
they're not trying to be stealthy they

1950
01:28:18,850 --> 01:28:15,699
want us to see something you know is it

1951
01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:18,860
you know is it our own military and a

1952
01:28:23,109 --> 01:28:20,690
couple of young guys in the craft and

1953
01:28:24,459 --> 01:28:23,119
they're saying oh let's go freak some

1954
01:28:26,260 --> 01:28:24,469
people out and they go down real low

1955
01:28:28,629 --> 01:28:26,270
with the craft and then they take off I

1956
01:28:31,540 --> 01:28:28,639
don't know that could be possible but

1957
01:28:33,879 --> 01:28:31,550
sometimes you know you just have to feel

1958
01:28:36,609 --> 01:28:33,889
that there is extraterrestrial involved

1959
01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:36,619
and maybe they just don't care they

1960
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don't care what we see or what we

1961
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:41,150
experience and they're here on their own

1962
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:45,050
mission whoever knows what that is there

1963
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:47,290
are a lot of theories about that and

1964
01:28:52,180 --> 01:28:49,570
they're just going about their business

1965
01:28:55,629 --> 01:28:52,190
so we don't even know if the experience

1966
01:28:57,609 --> 01:28:55,639
has anything to do with UFOs it may be

1967
01:28:59,620 --> 01:28:57,619
something we interpret in the way we

1968
01:29:03,160 --> 01:28:59,630
understand it because it is so alien to

1969
01:29:05,020 --> 01:29:03,170
our being well that's true but when when

1970
01:29:08,919 --> 01:29:05,030
you have people would have physical

1971
01:29:12,370 --> 01:29:08,929
evidence say injuries scoop marks out of

1972
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their arms or burn marks things like

1973
01:29:17,049 --> 01:29:14,889
that then you know something happened

1974
01:29:20,890 --> 01:29:17,059
but exactly what that is

1975
01:29:24,399 --> 01:29:20,900
except for debate do you think we'll

1976
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ever get a handle on it you know I'm not

1977
01:29:30,459 --> 01:29:27,170
holding my breath because whatever it is

1978
01:29:33,580 --> 01:29:30,469
is so far advanced so much further

1979
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:33,590
advanced than we are that I believe it's

1980
01:29:38,290 --> 01:29:36,050
beyond our understanding now as the

1981
01:29:41,109 --> 01:29:38,300
years go on you know we're in a high

1982
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stage of high technology right now it's

1983
01:29:45,310 --> 01:29:43,099
possible that we could have an

1984
01:29:48,459 --> 01:29:45,320
understanding of some of it but I don't

1985
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:48,469
think we'll ever get to the point

1986
01:29:53,100 --> 01:29:50,770
because you know if we're talking about

1987
01:29:55,750 --> 01:29:53,110
civilizations that are billions of years

1988
01:29:57,390 --> 01:29:55,760
further advanced than we are how could

1989
01:30:00,040 --> 01:29:57,400
we possibly understand

1990
01:30:01,930 --> 01:30:00,050
it reminds me I often say of the

1991
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sequence in the movie contact where

1992
01:30:06,700 --> 01:30:03,340
Jodie Foster

1993
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supposedly meets up with et after going

1994
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in some kind of wormhole machine

1995
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designed with alien blueprints and you

1996
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see someone who looks like her late

1997
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father and the creature whatever it is

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says to her I'm doing it this way to

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paraphrase it's not the cook because

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otherwise you wouldn't understand or

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investigator no insights yet margie into

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my late brother right except that i keep

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seeing him putting a dog bone into a

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sack and it like a burlap sack that

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don't know why i don't recall him ever

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having a dog right that is getting weird

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thoroughly weird what you're finding out

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about that i'll give you some insights

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after the show is over speaking of

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animals margie you've done quite a bit

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of work in in Missouri on the Academy

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relation mystery how did you get

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involved in that initially and how is

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your thinking involved over the time and

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and do as you're thinking changed at all

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or what what did you go into what was

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your mindset going into your initial

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investigation process well cow or animal

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relations was not something I was ever

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particularly interested in I you know I

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wondered about it but I didn't feel like

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I would be investigating it but in 2011

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January there was a report on kctv5

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about an unexplained animal mutilation

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near KCI Airport so that caught my

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attention and I called the reporter

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the person's name and contacted him he

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was very reluctant to be involved in it

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but he finally agreed to let me come out

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and investigate and I grabbed another

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and he's had investigative training so

2142
01:36:57,100 --> 01:36:53,720
we went to the site and we found some

2143
01:36:58,870 --> 01:36:57,110
strange things the animal was drained of

2144
01:37:00,760 --> 01:36:58,880
all its blood and yet there was not one

2145
01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:00,770
drop of blood on the ground where it was

2146
01:37:06,790 --> 01:37:04,610
lain it had been ill so it had been

2147
01:37:10,450 --> 01:37:06,800
separated from the rest of the herd and

2148
01:37:12,850 --> 01:37:10,460
was in a pen by itself and the animal

2149
01:37:15,480 --> 01:37:12,860
had obviously been dropped from above

2150
01:37:19,540 --> 01:37:15,490
because there was a two-inch indentation

2151
01:37:20,830 --> 01:37:19,550
into the very very hard ground that you

2152
01:37:23,470 --> 01:37:20,840
know there had been no moisture and it

2153
01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:23,480
was in the middle of winter and there

2154
01:37:29,230 --> 01:37:27,290
was this bad indentation now the animal

2155
01:37:32,230 --> 01:37:29,240
had been moved by the time I got there

2156
01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:32,240
so what we did was take some soil

2157
01:37:39,670 --> 01:37:35,930
samples so we took some inside where the

2158
01:37:41,980 --> 01:37:39,680
animal was laying and then also and it

2159
01:37:45,400 --> 01:37:41,990
was a clear outline by the way and then

2160
01:37:49,690 --> 01:37:45,410
also 60 feet away I sent those samples

2161
01:37:52,930 --> 01:37:49,700
in to Colorado to Chuck Zukowski and he

2162
01:37:55,090 --> 01:37:52,940
also sent an animal mutilation sample

2163
01:37:58,420 --> 01:37:55,100
that he obtained a couple of weeks prior

2164
01:38:02,920 --> 01:37:58,430
and a soil sample as well and the

2165
01:38:06,250 --> 01:38:02,930
results were that in both cases the soil

2166
01:38:08,710 --> 01:38:06,260
was found to be non water soluble which

2167
01:38:09,970 --> 01:38:08,720
is strange because that has to be in

2168
01:38:12,130 --> 01:38:09,980
order for that to happen has to be

2169
01:38:15,130 --> 01:38:12,140
subjected to extremely high temperatures

2170
01:38:18,100 --> 01:38:15,140
no well another case came after that

2171
01:38:20,740 --> 01:38:18,110
third case and that soil was also non

2172
01:38:23,680 --> 01:38:20,750
water-soluble so now we found a

2173
01:38:27,160 --> 01:38:23,690
commonality with the cases and the

2174
01:38:30,070 --> 01:38:27,170
reason I even thought about going out to

2175
01:38:34,360 --> 01:38:30,080
see this case was because of the

2176
01:38:37,000 --> 01:38:34,370
connection with UFOs and sometimes UFOs

2177
01:38:39,580 --> 01:38:37,010
are seen in the area or other strange

2178
01:38:41,650 --> 01:38:39,590
things happen at the same time or near

2179
01:38:45,310 --> 01:38:41,660
the same time as animal mutilations of

2180
01:38:46,840 --> 01:38:45,320
course you know all about that well then

2181
01:38:48,520 --> 01:38:46,850
that just kind of piqued my interest

2182
01:38:52,020 --> 01:38:48,530
after that case

2183
01:38:55,570 --> 01:38:52,030
and I got several others and I just find

2184
01:38:58,540 --> 01:38:55,580
it interesting I had to kind of I'm not

2185
01:38:59,950 --> 01:38:58,550
you know a farm girl or livestock I

2186
01:39:01,750 --> 01:38:59,960
don't like any of that stuff I don't

2187
01:39:08,110 --> 01:39:01,760
like to be around it but I just had to

2188
01:39:09,460 --> 01:39:08,120
suck it up and get out there the one

2189
01:39:10,540 --> 01:39:09,470
thing about the Kansas City case well

2190
01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:10,550
actually there's two things that really

2191
01:39:16,780 --> 01:39:13,370
spring to mind number one this was

2192
01:39:18,460 --> 01:39:16,790
literally on leased property belonging

2193
01:39:19,840 --> 01:39:18,470
to the airport and the control tower

2194
01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:19,850
couldn't have been more than a

2195
01:39:22,630 --> 01:39:21,170
quarter-mile away I mean I've seen

2196
01:39:23,650 --> 01:39:22,640
photographs of the animal line there and

2197
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:23,660
in the background you can see the

2198
01:39:27,730 --> 01:39:25,610
control tower so if it was dropped from

2199
01:39:29,020 --> 01:39:27,740
the air if somebody was asleep at the

2200
01:39:32,470 --> 01:39:29,030
wheel they're up in that control tower

2201
01:39:33,880 --> 01:39:32,480
or there's some pretty how would I put

2202
01:39:35,890 --> 01:39:33,890
this I guess impressive cloaking

2203
01:39:39,250 --> 01:39:35,900
technology involved the other thing that

2204
01:39:41,290 --> 01:39:39,260
really struck me was the the the strange

2205
01:39:44,500 --> 01:39:41,300
kind of outline around the animal

2206
01:39:46,990 --> 01:39:44,510
appeared that the area had had been

2207
01:39:49,270 --> 01:39:47,000
singed of course not being at the site

2208
01:39:51,640 --> 01:39:49,280
myself it's impossible really to

2209
01:39:53,650 --> 01:39:51,650
determine you know conclusively anything

2210
01:39:56,230 --> 01:39:53,660
from a photograph but but you did

2211
01:39:59,350 --> 01:39:56,240
describe just kind of in passing that

2212
01:40:01,990 --> 01:39:59,360
there was the outline of the animal what

2213
01:40:04,900 --> 01:40:02,000
did you make of that actually that case

2214
01:40:06,700 --> 01:40:04,910
did not have a singe around it that has

2215
01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:06,710
been in in a couple of other cases I've

2216
01:40:11,500 --> 01:40:09,050
worked ok yeah that was shortly after I

2217
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:11,510
think then yeah right that was the next

2218
01:40:17,470 --> 01:40:15,530
year but the the outline was curly just

2219
01:40:18,640 --> 01:40:17,480
seen in the dirt in this case and you

2220
01:40:22,990 --> 01:40:18,650
could see where the animal had been

2221
01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:23,000
thrashing so it wasn't it died on sight

2222
01:40:30,940 --> 01:40:26,210
it wasn't dead before it fell or was

2223
01:40:33,550 --> 01:40:30,950
dropped yeah well did you ever get any

2224
01:40:35,590 --> 01:40:33,560
sort of off-the-record statement or even

2225
01:40:37,390 --> 01:40:35,600
on the record statement from control

2226
01:40:38,890 --> 01:40:37,400
tower personnel because to have

2227
01:40:41,980 --> 01:40:38,900
something like that happen in such close

2228
01:40:45,010 --> 01:40:41,990
proximity to quite an impressive array

2229
01:40:50,290 --> 01:40:45,020
of a radar and other other types of

2230
01:40:51,910 --> 01:40:50,300
detection gear yeah it is they had

2231
01:40:56,050 --> 01:40:51,920
completely deny that there was anything

2232
01:40:57,850 --> 01:40:56,060
or there was anything on radar and they

2233
01:41:00,070 --> 01:40:57,860
said that we don't you know they don't

2234
01:41:02,300 --> 01:41:00,080
tell the public anything like that and

2235
01:41:04,370 --> 01:41:02,310
I'd have to get a freedom of information

2236
01:41:07,090 --> 01:41:04,380
request which I sent in and and of

2237
01:41:09,860 --> 01:41:07,100
course did not get a response to but

2238
01:41:12,980 --> 01:41:09,870
interesting present there have been

2239
01:41:16,340 --> 01:41:12,990
other cattle mutilation cases in the

2240
01:41:19,700 --> 01:41:16,350
same area within a mile of that spot

2241
01:41:22,970 --> 01:41:19,710
that happened in the 1970s there are at

2242
01:41:25,850 --> 01:41:22,980
least a dozen cattle mutilated at that

2243
01:41:28,700 --> 01:41:25,860
time yeah Missouri was particularly

2244
01:41:32,150 --> 01:41:28,710
hard-hit especially in the south if

2245
01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:32,160
memory serves me correct well you know

2246
01:41:36,830 --> 01:41:34,650
this is the kind of thing that that I've

2247
01:41:37,990 --> 01:41:36,840
been wrestling with about how many cases

2248
01:41:40,610 --> 01:41:38,000
actually go unreported

2249
01:41:43,340 --> 01:41:40,620
what do you think what would what would

2250
01:41:45,440 --> 01:41:43,350
your estimation be percentage-wise of

2251
01:41:48,620 --> 01:41:45,450
cases that go unreported of this type oh

2252
01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:48,630
I would say eighty to ninety percent of

2253
01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:49,890
those cases go unreported

2254
01:41:55,250 --> 01:41:52,890
yeah I've talked to so many people since

2255
01:41:57,410 --> 01:41:55,260
then and they just seem to fall in my

2256
01:42:00,290 --> 01:41:57,420
lap just on passing they'll come up to

2257
01:42:02,570 --> 01:42:00,300
me and say oh by the way I had a cattle

2258
01:42:04,370 --> 01:42:02,580
mutilation on my farm and and you know

2259
01:42:08,030 --> 01:42:04,380
what every year and I did you report it

2260
01:42:10,550 --> 01:42:08,040
no so you know I have all the people

2261
01:42:13,190 --> 01:42:10,560
I've talked to I would say 90% don't

2262
01:42:14,840 --> 01:42:13,200
report her or more and the reasons they

2263
01:42:16,910 --> 01:42:14,850
give is they didn't want anybody to

2264
01:42:18,500 --> 01:42:16,920
think they were nuts right and they

2265
01:42:21,500 --> 01:42:18,510
didn't want to be made fun of I mean I

2266
01:42:24,470 --> 01:42:21,510
had one man who went on local television

2267
01:42:26,480 --> 01:42:24,480
with the sheriff and the sheriff made

2268
01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:26,490
fun of them well he was laughing to make

2269
01:42:31,580 --> 01:42:29,730
it a joke about it well this guy he

2270
01:42:33,320 --> 01:42:31,590
didn't think was funny that a dozen of

2271
01:42:35,870 --> 01:42:33,330
his cattle were mutilated over a

2272
01:42:39,110 --> 01:42:35,880
three-day period and he lost a lot of

2273
01:42:41,180 --> 01:42:39,120
money so he just wanted answers he

2274
01:42:44,570 --> 01:42:41,190
wasn't thinking that it was anything UFO

2275
01:42:47,060 --> 01:42:44,580
related or you know anything strange he

2276
01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:47,070
thought people that was actually humans

2277
01:42:51,200 --> 01:42:49,290
doing it and he wanted answers well they

2278
01:42:55,490 --> 01:42:51,210
made a big joke about it and so now he

2279
01:42:58,220 --> 01:42:55,500
won't talk to anybody no I find that too

2280
01:43:01,550 --> 01:42:58,230
and I have to agree with your estimation

2281
01:43:03,950 --> 01:43:01,560
that eight or nine cases out of ten go

2282
01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:03,960
unreported and I also see a correlation

2283
01:43:09,620 --> 01:43:06,810
that the stranger the case are the less

2284
01:43:11,990 --> 01:43:09,630
likely it is to be reported the more the

2285
01:43:16,550 --> 01:43:12,000
more high strange you know the

2286
01:43:20,990 --> 01:43:16,560
evidence you know if if there's any sort

2287
01:43:22,970 --> 01:43:21,000
of spookiness involved with the case in

2288
01:43:25,820 --> 01:43:22,980
terms of how how the animal has been

2289
01:43:27,830 --> 01:43:25,830
disfigured for instance oftentimes those

2290
01:43:30,860 --> 01:43:27,840
are the cases that have the least

2291
01:43:33,860 --> 01:43:30,870
likelihood of being reported well and

2292
01:43:36,950 --> 01:43:33,870
also the veterinarians will cover things

2293
01:43:39,530 --> 01:43:36,960
up I've had cases where the veterinarian

2294
01:43:41,510 --> 01:43:39,540
says one thing to the rancher and writes

2295
01:43:44,450 --> 01:43:41,520
another thing completely different down

2296
01:43:47,870 --> 01:43:44,460
in his report making it some mundane

2297
01:43:51,170 --> 01:43:47,880
explanation like coyotes when he has

2298
01:43:55,010 --> 01:43:51,180
told everybody on site that he does he

2299
01:43:57,709 --> 01:43:55,020
can't explain it you know now you're

2300
01:43:59,360 --> 01:43:57,719
involved with a team that works the

2301
01:44:02,660 --> 01:43:59,370
Front Range in the Midwest out there do

2302
01:44:05,300 --> 01:44:02,670
do have a sense that the activity is

2303
01:44:08,300 --> 01:44:05,310
just burbling along or do you think that

2304
01:44:10,430 --> 01:44:08,310
there are there are periods where we

2305
01:44:13,459 --> 01:44:10,440
have more activity and then the activity

2306
01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:13,469
may cease completely have you noticed

2307
01:44:19,490 --> 01:44:16,530
any sort of patterning to these cases in

2308
01:44:24,140 --> 01:44:19,500
the last five or six years yeah there

2309
01:44:26,209 --> 01:44:24,150
there are patterns or we'll have a time

2310
01:44:27,350 --> 01:44:26,219
period where you have all kinds of weird

2311
01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:27,360
stuff happening

2312
01:44:32,570 --> 01:44:29,730
there'll be animal mutilations Bigfoot

2313
01:44:35,090 --> 01:44:32,580
sightings and UFO sightings and even

2314
01:44:37,189 --> 01:44:35,100
paranormal activity will will increase

2315
01:44:40,070 --> 01:44:37,199
and then there'll be a long period where

2316
01:44:42,830 --> 01:44:40,080
nothing happens and in and I'm going

2317
01:44:44,300 --> 01:44:42,840
into the CMS and you know wondering what

2318
01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:44,310
the heck's going on why aren't we having

2319
01:44:50,090 --> 01:44:46,050
more more things

2320
01:44:52,850 --> 01:44:50,100
although the past two years actually

2321
01:44:56,150 --> 01:44:52,860
since 2011 since a big UFO flap in

2322
01:44:59,450 --> 01:44:56,160
Kansas City in 2011 we have just had a

2323
01:45:02,390 --> 01:44:59,460
steady stream with not very much time

2324
01:45:04,729 --> 01:45:02,400
off well that certainly goes against the

2325
01:45:06,950 --> 01:45:04,739
theory by some people that UFOs left us

2326
01:45:09,260 --> 01:45:06,960
I know in Canada they have an awful lot

2327
01:45:11,600 --> 01:45:09,270
of UFO sightings Chris Rudovsky

2328
01:45:13,479 --> 01:45:11,610
comes on the show every year or so and

2329
01:45:16,550 --> 01:45:13,489
gives us an update we have margie kay

2330
01:45:18,020 --> 01:45:16,560
she works with missouri MUFON I'm going

2331
01:45:20,180 --> 01:45:18,030
to ask her something about that in the

2332
01:45:26,770 --> 01:45:20,190
next segment or two with Jeanne and

2333
01:45:31,689 --> 01:45:29,120
not just an alternative to the

2334
01:45:35,419 --> 01:45:31,699
mainstream media we're the premier

2335
01:45:39,290 --> 01:45:35,429
independent talk radio network we are G

2336
01:45:40,580 --> 01:45:39,300
C n first game attack of the Rockets and

2337
01:45:42,680 --> 01:45:40,590
it was a critically acclaimed success

2338
01:45:44,450 --> 01:45:42,690
and now there is the coming of the

2339
01:45:46,760 --> 01:45:44,460
protectors a former military

2340
01:45:48,979 --> 01:45:46,770
intelligence man is contacted by a space

2341
01:45:50,180 --> 01:45:48,989
woman in a dream a dream that turns out

2342
01:45:52,129 --> 01:45:50,190
to be a nightmare

2343
01:45:54,169 --> 01:45:52,139
because evil forces on our distant

2344
01:45:56,510 --> 01:45:54,179
planet are planning to conquer the earth

2345
01:45:58,970 --> 01:45:56,520
this is gripping science fiction of the

2346
01:46:01,040 --> 01:45:58,980
classic kind attack of the rock OIG's

2347
01:46:03,800 --> 01:46:01,050
and the coming of the protectors find

2348
01:46:05,660 --> 01:46:03,810
out more at Rocco's calm that's rock oh

2349
01:46:08,570 --> 01:46:05,670
it's our Ock oids

2350
01:46:11,060 --> 01:46:08,580
dot-com so here's what happened I was

2351
01:46:13,550 --> 01:46:11,070
placing an order online the site went

2352
01:46:15,919 --> 01:46:13,560
down they just stopped responding it

2353
01:46:17,300 --> 01:46:15,929
took hours before it returned but I'd

2354
01:46:19,669 --> 01:46:17,310
already placed the order with another

2355
01:46:21,770 --> 01:46:19,679
company if your site goes down you could

2356
01:46:23,689 --> 01:46:21,780
lose business and if you have a business

2357
01:46:26,090 --> 01:46:23,699
or personal site you'll want to know

2358
01:46:30,050 --> 01:46:26,100
it's easy to run and it will stay online

2359
01:46:32,570 --> 01:46:30,060
at I web your site is hosted on one of

2360
01:46:38,370 --> 01:46:32,580
the most reliable networks in the world

2361
01:46:42,700 --> 01:46:40,780
there's a guy named dr. Wallach who is

2362
01:46:44,170 --> 01:46:42,710
anything but your typical doctor both a

2363
01:46:46,600 --> 01:46:44,180
veterinarian and a naturopathic

2364
01:46:48,310 --> 01:46:46,610
physician doc asks why is this country

2365
01:46:50,680 --> 01:46:48,320
spending more money on health care by

2366
01:46:52,600 --> 01:46:50,690
far and ranking 50th in health and

2367
01:46:53,950 --> 01:46:52,610
longevity worldwide doc believes that

2368
01:46:55,870 --> 01:46:53,960
people should empower themselves with a

2369
01:46:57,580 --> 01:46:55,880
basic understanding of nutrition taking

2370
01:46:59,260 --> 01:46:57,590
charge of their life and attaining

2371
01:47:01,390 --> 01:46:59,270
optimal health and longevity through

2372
01:47:02,710 --> 01:47:01,400
nutrition not by toxic pharmaceutical

2373
01:47:04,420 --> 01:47:02,720
drugs that lead to side effects that

2374
01:47:06,220 --> 01:47:04,430
require more expensive and toxic

2375
01:47:07,870 --> 01:47:06,230
pharmaceutical drugs talk about being

2376
01:47:10,540 --> 01:47:07,880
dependent on drug companies to our own

2377
01:47:12,190 --> 01:47:10,550
destruction no less this is clearly a

2378
01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:12,200
deadly recipe doc wallets message is

2379
01:47:15,370 --> 01:47:13,610
resonating with an increasing number of

2380
01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:15,380
Americans who are waking up to all the

2381
01:47:18,670 --> 01:47:16,970
government and big pharma manipulation

2382
01:47:20,230 --> 01:47:18,680
of our health and health care system I

2383
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:20,240
like what doc Wallach is saying and

2384
01:47:23,860 --> 01:47:21,770
doing to enlighten people about health

2385
01:47:25,210 --> 01:47:23,870
care now join forces with him to help

2386
01:47:27,580 --> 01:47:25,220
this tireless crusader spread its

2387
01:47:29,260 --> 01:47:27,590
message visit bright side bend calm and

2388
01:47:31,570 --> 01:47:29,270
listen to dr. Wallach steadly recipe

2389
01:47:33,070 --> 01:47:31,580
lectures it makes a lot of sense and I

2390
01:47:35,410 --> 01:47:33,080
invite you to join our bright side

2391
01:47:40,010 --> 01:47:35,420
Benteen go to bright side been calm

2392
01:47:45,410 --> 01:47:40,020
that's ww-wait side Bend

2393
01:47:53,420 --> 01:47:49,110
welcome back to the para cast the gold

2394
01:48:01,860 --> 01:47:53,430
standard of paranormal radio and now

2395
01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:01,870
here's Jane Steinberg on the power cast

2396
01:48:07,530 --> 01:48:03,970
with Gene and Chris we are continuing

2397
01:48:10,620 --> 01:48:07,540
our explorations of psychic phenomena

2398
01:48:13,560 --> 01:48:10,630
and UFOs and cryptozoology and cattle

2399
01:48:14,730 --> 01:48:13,570
mutilations with margie kay now I don't

2400
01:48:17,430 --> 01:48:14,740
know if you're aware of this or not

2401
01:48:21,540 --> 01:48:17,440
chris has this project he's involved in

2402
01:48:23,880 --> 01:48:21,550
the mysterious valley involving cameras

2403
01:48:25,770 --> 01:48:23,890
a camera network they call the San Luis

2404
01:48:28,740 --> 01:48:25,780
Valley camera project have you heard

2405
01:48:33,030 --> 01:48:28,750
about it yes I have and I think that's a

2406
01:48:35,340 --> 01:48:33,040
great idea however I think if we're

2407
01:48:38,970 --> 01:48:35,350
dealing with things that operate in a

2408
01:48:40,590 --> 01:48:38,980
higher vibration that's beyond the

2409
01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:40,600
visible light spectrum and of course

2410
01:48:46,710 --> 01:48:42,850
also beyond the what the camera can get

2411
01:48:48,330 --> 01:48:46,720
might not have much luck but cameras do

2412
01:48:50,940 --> 01:48:48,340
catch more than we can see with the

2413
01:48:51,420 --> 01:48:50,950
naked eye so you know hopefully that'll

2414
01:48:54,570 --> 01:48:51,430
work

2415
01:48:57,420 --> 01:48:54,580
and there's always that very vexing

2416
01:48:59,280 --> 01:48:57,430
problem of cameras not functioning

2417
01:49:01,620 --> 01:48:59,290
properly when stuff is happening which

2418
01:49:05,010 --> 01:49:01,630
just yeah and the time again to people

2419
01:49:06,660 --> 01:49:05,020
and I'm just hoping the best yeah I

2420
01:49:09,000 --> 01:49:06,670
can't tell you how many times have been

2421
01:49:11,400 --> 01:49:09,010
on an investigation and get to the site

2422
01:49:14,520 --> 01:49:11,410
and I'm looking through my video camera

2423
01:49:17,190 --> 01:49:14,530
with a charge for 700 hours and it

2424
01:49:21,780 --> 01:49:17,200
drains down to nothing in five seconds

2425
01:49:23,040 --> 01:49:21,790
now watch it during down yeah that just

2426
01:49:27,840 --> 01:49:23,050
happened to me about three weeks ago

2427
01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:27,850
actually really yeah the pain yeah the

2428
01:49:32,550 --> 01:49:29,290
car battery was fine but all the other

2429
01:49:35,510 --> 01:49:32,560
batteries everybody's phones and cameras

2430
01:49:38,850 --> 01:49:35,520
and my little digital recording device

2431
01:49:40,440 --> 01:49:38,860
were all drained and we had just been we

2432
01:49:42,810 --> 01:49:40,450
had a low pass of what appeared to be a

2433
01:49:45,330 --> 01:49:42,820
military helicopter that went right over

2434
01:49:47,610 --> 01:49:45,340
us and I'm not sure if that if the two

2435
01:49:53,030 --> 01:49:47,620
the two are related but it's kind of

2436
01:49:57,480 --> 01:49:55,380
that's why we carry lots of batteries

2437
01:49:58,350 --> 01:49:57,490
with us yeah and we try to be prepared

2438
01:50:00,990 --> 01:49:58,360
for anything

2439
01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:01,000
strange like oh I was on one cattle

2440
01:50:06,300 --> 01:50:04,090
mutilation investigation where I've been

2441
01:50:08,459 --> 01:50:06,310
out there several times we actually had

2442
01:50:11,700 --> 01:50:08,469
planes flying overhead that we couldn't

2443
01:50:14,189 --> 01:50:11,710
see and at least four of them that were

2444
01:50:17,850 --> 01:50:14,199
right over our heads and very loud but

2445
01:50:19,620 --> 01:50:17,860
we could not see them and then we had

2446
01:50:22,859 --> 01:50:19,630
what we would think was a helicopter

2447
01:50:25,109 --> 01:50:22,869
because we were loading up getting ready

2448
01:50:28,470 --> 01:50:25,119
to leave and all of a sudden this like

2449
01:50:31,109 --> 01:50:28,480
80 mile an hour wind comes up blowing us

2450
01:50:33,570 --> 01:50:31,119
all to heck and it just felt like a

2451
01:50:36,270 --> 01:50:33,580
helicopter blade and then it was gone

2452
01:50:39,439 --> 01:50:36,280
and this was on a dead calm day was over

2453
01:50:46,470 --> 01:50:43,530
yes it cannot you know and I know that

2454
01:50:48,570 --> 01:50:46,480
there is such thing as invisible craft

2455
01:50:51,959 --> 01:50:48,580
or that you have something that they can

2456
01:50:54,479 --> 01:50:51,969
cloak because I have a good friend who

2457
01:50:57,930 --> 01:50:54,489
is in an organization with three letters

2458
01:51:01,020 --> 01:50:57,940
and he's confirmed that he's seeing them

2459
01:51:02,520 --> 01:51:01,030
himself so they're they're they're gotta

2460
01:51:05,149 --> 01:51:02,530
watch out for those three-letter

2461
01:51:09,930 --> 01:51:05,159
organizations

2462
01:51:11,609 --> 01:51:09,940
once a spook always spooky well let me

2463
01:51:13,109 --> 01:51:11,619
ask you a question here then since we

2464
01:51:15,600 --> 01:51:13,119
raised this and the possibilities of

2465
01:51:18,149 --> 01:51:15,610
government involvement in some UFO cases

2466
01:51:20,189 --> 01:51:18,159
have you had any men and black

2467
01:51:22,080 --> 01:51:20,199
encounters or encounters with government

2468
01:51:25,050 --> 01:51:22,090
people wanting you to not to talk about

2469
01:51:27,689 --> 01:51:25,060
this I have had encounters with

2470
01:51:30,899 --> 01:51:27,699
government people they have made

2471
01:51:34,140 --> 01:51:30,909
themselves known and highly visible they

2472
01:51:36,890 --> 01:51:34,150
have taps on all of my phones and all of

2473
01:51:39,870 --> 01:51:36,900
our internet I've caught them leaving

2474
01:51:43,290 --> 01:51:39,880
little tiny boxes up on our Comcast

2475
01:51:45,030 --> 01:51:43,300
system outside of my office and changing

2476
01:51:47,459 --> 01:51:45,040
that out we've got them four times I've

2477
01:51:49,709 --> 01:51:47,469
got them on videotape they've made

2478
01:51:51,479 --> 01:51:49,719
themselves known but they've never no

2479
01:51:53,760 --> 01:51:51,489
one has ever approached me and said stop

2480
01:51:56,070 --> 01:51:53,770
doing what you're doing but whenever I'm

2481
01:51:58,050 --> 01:51:56,080
working on a high-profile case they

2482
01:52:00,620 --> 01:51:58,060
appear so they're making no effort to

2483
01:52:03,240 --> 01:52:00,630
hide their existence and presence in

2484
01:52:05,910 --> 01:52:03,250
some cases they are making an effort to

2485
01:52:07,410 --> 01:52:05,920
hide but I found them anyway but in

2486
01:52:09,720 --> 01:52:07,420
other cases I think they're being too

2487
01:52:12,120 --> 01:52:09,730
darn obvious they're trying to be too

2488
01:52:13,979 --> 01:52:12,130
darn obvious do you think therefore it's

2489
01:52:15,479 --> 01:52:13,989
misdirection get you to focus on what

2490
01:52:17,459 --> 01:52:15,489
you think they're doing and they're

2491
01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:17,469
doing something else I think they're

2492
01:52:22,110 --> 01:52:20,010
just letting me know they're there and

2493
01:52:25,229 --> 01:52:22,120
interested in the case I'm working on

2494
01:52:28,979 --> 01:52:25,239
and you know maybe they're in their

2495
01:52:30,660 --> 01:52:28,989
messages to back off the case but I've

2496
01:52:32,700 --> 01:52:30,670
never had anybody actually say that to

2497
01:52:35,060 --> 01:52:32,710
me well does that make you feel all warm

2498
01:52:38,910 --> 01:52:35,070
and fuzzy and protected or the opposite

2499
01:52:40,979 --> 01:52:38,920
no it doesn't but I've been doing this

2500
01:52:42,180 --> 01:52:40,989
so many years if they wanted to do

2501
01:52:44,459 --> 01:52:42,190
something they would have done it by now

2502
01:52:47,370 --> 01:52:44,469
oh I've been doing this so many years

2503
01:52:50,340 --> 01:52:47,380
that if they wanted to do something to

2504
01:52:52,410 --> 01:52:50,350
me they would have already done it and I

2505
01:52:54,050 --> 01:52:52,420
just think they want me to know that

2506
01:52:58,320 --> 01:52:54,060
they're there and they're watching me

2507
01:53:02,160 --> 01:52:58,330
but I'm not here pardon me

2508
01:53:04,979 --> 01:53:02,170
you don't care well I I care but I can't

2509
01:53:07,020 --> 01:53:04,989
let it destroy my life you know I I have

2510
01:53:08,970 --> 01:53:07,030
a business to run and I had things I'd

2511
01:53:11,340 --> 01:53:08,980
like to do and I'm just going to go

2512
01:53:13,080 --> 01:53:11,350
about my business do you have family

2513
01:53:19,200 --> 01:53:13,090
members who've had encounters or any

2514
01:53:22,950 --> 01:53:19,210
strange experiences at all yes every

2515
01:53:25,770 --> 01:53:22,960
family member has had something whether

2516
01:53:29,129 --> 01:53:25,780
it's simply seeing something in the sky

2517
01:53:33,450 --> 01:53:29,139
at a distance or something close up or

2518
01:53:36,600 --> 01:53:33,460
actually scenic bt's in their room at

2519
01:53:41,540 --> 01:53:36,610
different levels of experience but all

2520
01:53:46,740 --> 01:53:43,770
children and grandchildren

2521
01:53:50,070 --> 01:53:46,750
now when you say et's you're just saying

2522
01:53:52,350 --> 01:53:50,080
presumed ets you don't know something

2523
01:53:54,870 --> 01:53:52,360
that doesn't look human yes okay

2524
01:53:57,899 --> 01:53:54,880
something that we assume is not of this

2525
01:54:00,840 --> 01:53:57,909
earth yes and weird things I mean just

2526
01:54:03,930 --> 01:54:00,850
strange things happen Oh Mike drones

2527
01:54:05,490 --> 01:54:03,940
flying right over our houses that are

2528
01:54:07,740 --> 01:54:05,500
obviously drones you know what's the

2529
01:54:11,820 --> 01:54:07,750
reason for that it's not Amazon doing a

2530
01:54:14,040 --> 01:54:11,830
test run I don't know if they've got FAA

2531
01:54:16,740 --> 01:54:14,050
approval in Kansas City but I haven't

2532
01:54:18,260 --> 01:54:16,750
heard about it I'm being less serious

2533
01:54:22,169 --> 01:54:18,270
now when we talk about government

2534
01:54:24,120 --> 01:54:22,179
intervention or observation do you think

2535
01:54:25,350 --> 01:54:24,130
the government really knows anything

2536
01:54:27,300 --> 01:54:25,360
solid about UF

2537
01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:27,310
or are they as mystified as the rest of

2538
01:54:34,440 --> 01:54:31,930
us part of me thinks that they are

2539
01:54:36,510 --> 01:54:34,450
following the investigators because they

2540
01:54:40,020 --> 01:54:36,520
want to learn from whatever it is we

2541
01:54:43,710 --> 01:54:40,030
know or at work and find out and then

2542
01:54:46,140 --> 01:54:43,720
part of me thinks there's at least some

2543
01:54:48,410 --> 01:54:46,150
part of the government that does a heck

2544
01:54:52,590 --> 01:54:48,420
of a lot more than the rest of us I

2545
01:54:55,260 --> 01:54:52,600
think that has to be true yeah there's

2546
01:54:57,540 --> 01:54:55,270
too many good quality good gun camera

2547
01:55:01,050 --> 01:54:57,550
footage from planes from fire fighter

2548
01:55:04,170 --> 01:55:01,060
planes and there's just you know I think

2549
01:55:07,050 --> 01:55:04,180
UFO sightings around nuclear test sites

2550
01:55:09,960 --> 01:55:07,060
is a really good subject for a book that

2551
01:55:11,520 --> 01:55:09,970
somebody should eventually write because

2552
01:55:14,100 --> 01:55:11,530
there's there seems to be a real

2553
01:55:16,050 --> 01:55:14,110
interest in our military's weaponry

2554
01:55:19,260 --> 01:55:16,060
especially if it has any sort of nuclear

2555
01:55:22,140 --> 01:55:19,270
component to it and of course nuclear

2556
01:55:25,760 --> 01:55:22,150
power plants and and facilities that

2557
01:55:28,650 --> 01:55:25,770
enrich uranium tend to attract sightings

2558
01:55:30,900 --> 01:55:28,660
especially in Colorado based on my own

2559
01:55:34,710 --> 01:55:30,910
personal experience of hearing stories

2560
01:55:38,300 --> 01:55:34,720
and and in following up leads NORAD of

2561
01:55:40,590 --> 01:55:38,310
course has had some fairly famous

2562
01:55:42,960 --> 01:55:40,600
mutilation events that happened in one

2563
01:55:44,910 --> 01:55:42,970
case right in inside of the doorway into

2564
01:55:47,130 --> 01:55:44,920
the Cheyenne Mountain facility which

2565
01:55:47,780 --> 01:55:47,140
someone was sending a message to someone

2566
01:55:50,550 --> 01:55:47,790
there

2567
01:55:53,910 --> 01:55:50,560
so yeah they definitely have I think

2568
01:55:55,530 --> 01:55:53,920
they I think the way I've always said it

2569
01:55:56,850 --> 01:55:55,540
is is the more you know the more you

2570
01:55:59,070 --> 01:55:56,860
know you don't know and the more

2571
01:56:00,360 --> 01:55:59,080
confused you become and so they know a

2572
01:56:04,680 --> 01:56:00,370
lot more than we are so they're probably

2573
01:56:08,310 --> 01:56:04,690
all a lot more confused exactly I have

2574
01:56:09,990 --> 01:56:08,320
to agree with you on that yes yes it's

2575
01:56:12,570 --> 01:56:10,000
confusing for all of us especially the

2576
01:56:14,550 --> 01:56:12,580
more you get involved in it and the more

2577
01:56:16,170 --> 01:56:14,560
you keep digging and then going into

2578
01:56:18,120 --> 01:56:16,180
different topics trying to find answers

2579
01:56:19,860 --> 01:56:18,130
and at some point you realize you're not

2580
01:56:22,320 --> 01:56:19,870
ever going to get all the answers yeah

2581
01:56:26,520 --> 01:56:22,330
well we're getting into an age now with

2582
01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:26,530
the the affordability of post-production

2583
01:56:31,890 --> 01:56:30,010
software and animation programs and it's

2584
01:56:34,950 --> 01:56:31,900
getting harder and harder to for I think

2585
01:56:37,860 --> 01:56:34,960
the average person to to determine what

2586
01:56:40,050 --> 01:56:37,870
is a true photograph or a video clip

2587
01:56:42,180 --> 01:56:40,060
versus one that's been fabricated and

2588
01:56:44,700 --> 01:56:42,190
and of course you know you have to

2589
01:56:47,940 --> 01:56:44,710
really think back to people like George

2590
01:56:51,120 --> 01:56:47,950
Adamski and and some of the contactees

2591
01:56:53,040 --> 01:56:51,130
of the 50s and then of course we have an

2592
01:56:55,290 --> 01:56:53,050
upcoming guest of yours several people

2593
01:56:57,150 --> 01:56:55,300
on our forums are scratching their heads

2594
01:56:59,670 --> 01:56:57,160
wondering why you're going to be

2595
01:57:04,110 --> 01:56:59,680
presenting Michael horn and the billy

2596
01:57:07,320 --> 01:57:04,120
meier highly dubious and and for the

2597
01:57:09,900 --> 01:57:07,330
most part discredited case of the Swiss

2598
01:57:11,670 --> 01:57:09,910
one-armed Swiss farmer made famous by

2599
01:57:17,160 --> 01:57:11,680
Wendell Stevens and Lee and Brit elders

2600
01:57:19,380 --> 01:57:17,170
back in the 80s where do you fall in on

2601
01:57:21,030 --> 01:57:19,390
the billy mayer thing and in and Michael

2602
01:57:23,340 --> 01:57:21,040
horn especially we've had him on the

2603
01:57:25,830 --> 01:57:23,350
show and he is not a pleasant person to

2604
01:57:27,840 --> 01:57:25,840
speak with hey unless you totally agree

2605
01:57:29,790 --> 01:57:27,850
with him let's have that answer in our

2606
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less you were able to repair the one

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wrinkled an older person will typically

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injure more easily and heal more slowly

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billy meier in michael horn we had

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Michael horn as a guest on the para cast

2711
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twice in our early years we had

2712
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extensive discussions of the case in

2713
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fact we reached the point where Michael

2714
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horn himself was referred to as he who

2715
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shall not be named in our forums because

2716
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it got so contentious so alright now I

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can give you a lot of stories about our

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investigations because we have done

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investigations our original co-host

2720
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David Viet knee analyzed a set of photos

2721
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submitted by Michael horn we had some

2722
02:02:41,550 --> 02:02:39,010
other guests who looked at the so-called

2723
02:02:45,950 --> 02:02:41,560
wedding cake photos where do you stand

2724
02:02:49,110 --> 02:02:45,960
on billy meier well here's the thing i

2725
02:02:52,100 --> 02:02:49,120
never have anybody come in to speak at

2726
02:02:54,540 --> 02:02:52,110
my events until i remote-view them or

2727
02:02:57,420 --> 02:02:54,550
remote-view the case and in this case i

2728
02:02:59,970 --> 02:02:57,430
remote viewed the billy meier case about

2729
02:03:03,000 --> 02:02:59,980
three or four years ago when i saw a

2730
02:03:05,130 --> 02:03:03,010
documentary film about him and everybody

2731
02:03:08,400 --> 02:03:05,140
was wondering is this real is this real

2732
02:03:11,880 --> 02:03:08,410
so i went home went into a trance state

2733
02:03:15,240 --> 02:03:11,890
and i remote viewed way back to the 70s

2734
02:03:17,670 --> 02:03:15,250
and forward and i see that he is a

2735
02:03:18,450 --> 02:03:17,680
contact ii and he billy meier was

2736
02:03:22,080 --> 02:03:18,460
telling the truth

2737
02:03:26,850 --> 02:03:22,090
so i have a personal interest in the

2738
02:03:29,160 --> 02:03:26,860
case and you know i don't know about

2739
02:03:31,260 --> 02:03:29,170
michael horns personality he's been very

2740
02:03:35,910 --> 02:03:31,270
pleasant to me fact i had him on my

2741
02:03:39,810 --> 02:03:35,920
radio show and he was quite pleasant but

2742
02:03:42,600 --> 02:03:39,820
i just felt compelled to get this story

2743
02:03:44,550 --> 02:03:42,610
out and hear more about it firsthand so

2744
02:03:46,140 --> 02:03:44,560
you know what we'll see what happens

2745
02:03:46,950 --> 02:03:46,150
well I'll tell you what happened here

2746
02:03:50,010 --> 02:03:46,960
let me tell you

2747
02:03:50,700 --> 02:03:50,020
so David ba Denis data analysis is still

2748
02:03:53,850 --> 02:03:50,710
in our forums

2749
02:03:55,950 --> 02:03:53,860
of these photos submitted by Michael

2750
02:03:58,110 --> 02:03:55,960
horn found them to be obvious blatant

2751
02:04:01,050 --> 02:03:58,120
fakes that he easily duplicated with

2752
02:04:02,790 --> 02:04:01,060
regard to the wedding cake photo that

2753
02:04:05,820 --> 02:04:02,800
has been duplicated I think it's

2754
02:04:08,820 --> 02:04:05,830
something like a fancy garbage can cover

2755
02:04:11,700 --> 02:04:08,830
the long and short of it is not a single

2756
02:04:14,250 --> 02:04:11,710
one of the billy meier photos has ever

2757
02:04:17,550 --> 02:04:14,260
been shown to be genuine and most are

2758
02:04:19,890 --> 02:04:17,560
obvious blatant face that's indisputable

2759
02:04:21,390 --> 02:04:19,900
because we've done that ourselves here

2760
02:04:23,729 --> 02:04:21,400
in the power cast and the guests who are

2761
02:04:26,490 --> 02:04:23,739
close to the show and even one person

2762
02:04:29,640 --> 02:04:26,500
who is not close to the show anymore but

2763
02:04:32,070 --> 02:04:29,650
he did work that we respect he did photo

2764
02:04:34,620 --> 02:04:32,080
analysis let me bring up another point

2765
02:04:38,010 --> 02:04:34,630
here before we invited he who shall not

2766
02:04:40,320 --> 02:04:38,020
be named or mr. horn to the power cast

2767
02:04:43,320 --> 02:04:40,330
we did our due diligence we did some

2768
02:04:45,810 --> 02:04:43,330
research and we found out a number of

2769
02:04:47,130 --> 02:04:45,820
very very curious things now Michael

2770
02:04:49,590 --> 02:04:47,140
horn claims that Lea Meier has made

2771
02:04:53,520 --> 02:04:49,600
predictions have come true in every case

2772
02:04:56,790 --> 02:04:53,530
that we looked at this however what we

2773
02:04:59,459 --> 02:04:56,800
find is this that those predictions were

2774
02:05:02,880 --> 02:04:59,469
either so general they weren't specific

2775
02:05:07,260 --> 02:05:02,890
enough to really actually and truly give

2776
02:05:10,680 --> 02:05:07,270
you any evidence of any foreknowledge in

2777
02:05:12,600 --> 02:05:10,690
some cases it was even worse where the

2778
02:05:15,780 --> 02:05:12,610
prediction was not posted or published

2779
02:05:18,330 --> 02:05:15,790
until after the event occurred or got

2780
02:05:21,120 --> 02:05:18,340
information scientifically wrong now I

2781
02:05:24,390 --> 02:05:21,130
don't know about your remote viewing and

2782
02:05:27,660 --> 02:05:24,400
I'll be generous here and grant that

2783
02:05:29,340 --> 02:05:27,670
maybe billy meier early on and this is

2784
02:05:32,160 --> 02:05:29,350
possibly true with a lot of so-called

2785
02:05:34,860 --> 02:05:32,170
contactees had one or more genuine

2786
02:05:37,250 --> 02:05:34,870
experiences he also received a lot of

2787
02:05:40,380 --> 02:05:37,260
attention for those experiences and

2788
02:05:43,170 --> 02:05:40,390
maybe felt then that he wanted more

2789
02:05:46,290 --> 02:05:43,180
attention so later experiences were

2790
02:05:48,959 --> 02:05:46,300
fabricated now as to the influence of

2791
02:05:51,630 --> 02:05:48,969
that by Michael horn I don't know he's

2792
02:05:53,150 --> 02:05:51,640
his authorized representative in the USA

2793
02:05:55,620 --> 02:05:53,160
we'll leave it at that

2794
02:05:58,320 --> 02:05:55,630
obviously he's nice if you go along with

2795
02:06:00,780 --> 02:05:58,330
him if not he can be very contentious

2796
02:06:03,840 --> 02:06:00,790
very difficult to deal with and after a

2797
02:06:06,270 --> 02:06:03,850
while his presence in our forum was on

2798
02:06:08,610 --> 02:06:06,280
welcomed we threw him out of our forums

2799
02:06:11,190 --> 02:06:08,620
because it was impossible to have a

2800
02:06:13,710 --> 02:06:11,200
sensible conversation with him so I'll

2801
02:06:15,270 --> 02:06:13,720
put it this way obviously I can't

2802
02:06:17,760 --> 02:06:15,280
account for your remote viewing

2803
02:06:20,100 --> 02:06:17,770
I will account for this he may have had

2804
02:06:22,440 --> 02:06:20,110
real experiences but the rest is all

2805
02:06:25,650 --> 02:06:22,450
fakery his photographic evidence is a

2806
02:06:28,710 --> 02:06:25,660
fake his predictions are a fake so the

2807
02:06:32,070 --> 02:06:28,720
thing I have here to say is if we have

2808
02:06:34,230 --> 02:06:32,080
all this evidence of fakery how can we

2809
02:06:36,750 --> 02:06:34,240
take anything that he says seriously

2810
02:06:40,620 --> 02:06:36,760
even if granted he had something real

2811
02:06:43,830 --> 02:06:40,630
happened to him Margy well you say that

2812
02:06:46,920 --> 02:06:43,840
but then Michael Horne can refute

2813
02:06:49,260 --> 02:06:46,930
everything no one cannot he cannot I'll

2814
02:06:51,240 --> 02:06:49,270
stop it there he cannot he's been given

2815
02:06:53,520 --> 02:06:51,250
every opportunity to review things and

2816
02:06:56,850 --> 02:06:53,530
his technique is this way you can hear

2817
02:06:58,830 --> 02:06:56,860
the shows yourself it's back to 2006 he

2818
02:07:00,360 --> 02:06:58,840
doesn't refute anything what he does is

2819
02:07:02,040 --> 02:07:00,370
he talks you to death

2820
02:07:03,810 --> 02:07:02,050
so that's his first techniques first

2821
02:07:05,910 --> 02:07:03,820
technique is to just talk and talk and

2822
02:07:08,070 --> 02:07:05,920
talk and then if you point out something

2823
02:07:11,580 --> 02:07:08,080
that is incorrect he changes the subject

2824
02:07:13,680 --> 02:07:11,590
or he misrepresents an answer so no he

2825
02:07:17,850 --> 02:07:13,690
has never refute at anything there's

2826
02:07:20,070 --> 02:07:17,860
thousands of posts in our forums showing

2827
02:07:23,930 --> 02:07:20,080
you everything that he says disassembled

2828
02:07:26,820 --> 02:07:23,940
I have email threats where people on a

2829
02:07:30,390 --> 02:07:26,830
roving mailing list are having it out

2830
02:07:32,820 --> 02:07:30,400
with Michael horn and every single case

2831
02:07:34,440 --> 02:07:32,830
everything he says is refuted completely

2832
02:07:36,930 --> 02:07:34,450
so maybe you haven't

2833
02:07:39,210 --> 02:07:36,940
well disproven what he says we have to

2834
02:07:42,090 --> 02:07:39,220
our satisfaction shown that he is being

2835
02:07:44,610 --> 02:07:42,100
deceptive completely if you can send me

2836
02:07:45,090 --> 02:07:44,620
your evidence of that I would love to

2837
02:07:47,310 --> 02:07:45,100
see it

2838
02:07:51,150 --> 02:07:47,320
and I'm gonna be very open-minded here

2839
02:07:53,340 --> 02:07:51,160
but I'd like to see your testing on his

2840
02:07:55,470 --> 02:07:53,350
photos well okay as far as the testing

2841
02:07:57,690 --> 02:07:55,480
on his photos you have to go back to the

2842
02:07:59,850 --> 02:07:57,700
early episodes of the podcast where

2843
02:08:04,170 --> 02:07:59,860
Michael horn appeared and I'll send you

2844
02:08:07,050 --> 02:08:04,180
the listing it's for June 27 2006 where

2845
02:08:10,470 --> 02:08:07,060
I earned it viewed him and then where he

2846
02:08:14,280 --> 02:08:10,480
debated David B at me on July 11 2006 so

2847
02:08:16,380 --> 02:08:14,290
we have June 27th and July 11 2006 in

2848
02:08:18,240 --> 02:08:16,390
our forums if you go back that

2849
02:08:20,850 --> 02:08:18,250
are to 2006 and we still have the

2850
02:08:25,470 --> 02:08:20,860
messages online thousands of them you'll

2851
02:08:27,840 --> 02:08:25,480
see exactly what happened okay right my

2852
02:08:30,630 --> 02:08:27,850
favorite is the alleged photograph of

2853
02:08:32,640 --> 02:08:30,640
Samia see and another one of the plate

2854
02:08:36,480 --> 02:08:32,650
Ian's or I'd forget where he said they

2855
02:08:38,790 --> 02:08:36,490
were from and and somebody found exactly

2856
02:08:40,350 --> 02:08:38,800
where he got that photograph and there

2857
02:08:43,830 --> 02:08:40,360
were two I think girls that were

2858
02:08:48,690 --> 02:08:43,840
featured weekly on the Dean Martin show

2859
02:08:50,760 --> 02:08:48,700
and they they put up the example of the

2860
02:08:52,890 --> 02:08:50,770
known photograph and then put it side by

2861
02:08:54,330 --> 02:08:52,900
side with the claim the the photograph

2862
02:08:57,330 --> 02:08:54,340
that he claimed it was some yah see and

2863
02:08:59,250 --> 02:08:57,340
there are absolutely identical so it's

2864
02:09:02,580 --> 02:08:59,260
really in the face of that kind of

2865
02:09:06,600 --> 02:09:02,590
evidence and you know sort of refuting

2866
02:09:08,520 --> 02:09:06,610
some of the the real major elements of

2867
02:09:11,520 --> 02:09:08,530
his story it's really difficult to take

2868
02:09:14,220 --> 02:09:11,530
a lot of the subsequent material

2869
02:09:16,380 --> 02:09:14,230
seriously at least for me and and I do I

2870
02:09:18,780 --> 02:09:16,390
do try to be as open-minded as possible

2871
02:09:21,840 --> 02:09:18,790
without you know without you know

2872
02:09:23,310 --> 02:09:21,850
suspending my disbelief but I tried to

2873
02:09:25,710 --> 02:09:23,320
be as objective and open-minded as

2874
02:09:28,110 --> 02:09:25,720
possible and the the film footage of the

2875
02:09:33,210 --> 02:09:28,120
UFO circling the tree is so obvious on

2876
02:09:36,870 --> 02:09:33,220
the string some of it is just it's it's

2877
02:09:38,970 --> 02:09:36,880
laughable now I understand understand

2878
02:09:40,590 --> 02:09:38,980
here Margie that Chris and I have been

2879
02:09:42,750 --> 02:09:40,600
around this field for a number of years

2880
02:09:45,480 --> 02:09:42,760
as you have Chris has done photo

2881
02:09:48,380 --> 02:09:45,490
analysis I have worked with people who

2882
02:09:51,420 --> 02:09:48,390
do photo analysis people whom I trust

2883
02:09:53,940 --> 02:09:51,430
and I will tell you again that number

2884
02:09:56,580 --> 02:09:53,950
one Michael horn can't refute a thing he

2885
02:09:59,850 --> 02:09:56,590
can filibuster with the best of them all

2886
02:10:02,150 --> 02:09:59,860
the photos billy meier produces or his

2887
02:10:04,860 --> 02:10:02,160
representatives produce are obvious

2888
02:10:08,280 --> 02:10:04,870
absurd frauds just as the one I see at

2889
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Miu fons Missouri site announcing it

2890
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that's the one of these wackadoodle

2891
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frauds that he's peddling and that's the

2892
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problem we have with billy meier and

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Michael horn let me get on with that in

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the moment with gene and Chris and

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2955
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2956
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2957
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good in the bedroom lately no I swear

2958
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you didn't pick anything up at the

2959
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2960
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something's different I have been taking

2961
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that heart and body extract you bought

2962
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2963
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2965
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2997
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investment advisors won't talk about

2998
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2999
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1986 yet the financial industry won't

3000
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recognize the value of gold for your

3001
02:14:23,060 --> 02:14:20,730
retirement goal has outperformed paper

3002
02:14:24,560 --> 02:14:23,070
investments yet no word about IRAs if

3003
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you would like to have gold for your

3004
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3005
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3006
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3007
02:14:47,340 --> 02:14:45,480
this is Micah Hanks to the graylien

3008
02:14:49,410 --> 02:14:47,350
report and you're listening to the para

3009
02:14:50,120 --> 02:14:49,420
cast the gold standard of paranormal

3010
02:14:57,620 --> 02:14:50,130
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3011
02:15:00,750 --> 02:14:57,630
[Music]

3012
02:15:02,790 --> 02:15:00,760
now once again margie kay I don't want

3013
02:15:04,830 --> 02:15:02,800
you to take everything we say on faith

3014
02:15:07,410 --> 02:15:04,840
I'd like you to listen to the episodes

3015
02:15:09,990 --> 02:15:07,420
in which Michael horn appears I'd like

3016
02:15:12,300 --> 02:15:10,000
you to look at the threads from July the

3017
02:15:14,550 --> 02:15:12,310
summer of 2006 in our forums I'll try

3018
02:15:16,110 --> 02:15:14,560
get the links to you okay so let's be

3019
02:15:18,320 --> 02:15:16,120
fair about it now if you still don't

3020
02:15:20,550 --> 02:15:18,330
believe us go ahead I'm cool with that

3021
02:15:21,990 --> 02:15:20,560
but I really want you to find out that's

3022
02:15:25,740 --> 02:15:22,000
why we will never have him on the show

3023
02:15:28,500 --> 02:15:25,750
again because we are satisfied that he's

3024
02:15:31,200 --> 02:15:28,510
a fake we are satisfied that Billy Meyer

3025
02:15:33,840 --> 02:15:31,210
is a fake well I will I will look into

3026
02:15:37,979 --> 02:15:33,850
what you've got and do some more

3027
02:15:38,399 --> 02:15:37,989
research on it and then we'll see fair

3028
02:15:40,649 --> 02:15:38,409
enough

3029
02:15:44,220 --> 02:15:40,659
let's move to one or two more topics

3030
02:15:46,140 --> 02:15:44,230
before we end the show we have like two

3031
02:15:48,090 --> 02:15:46,150
segments left now we're talking about

3032
02:15:50,280 --> 02:15:48,100
government interests knowledge about

3033
02:15:52,140 --> 02:15:50,290
UFOs and we have some people out there

3034
02:15:54,090 --> 02:15:52,150
who are pushing for disclosure the

3035
02:15:56,640 --> 02:15:54,100
government knows the truth why aren't

3036
02:15:58,979 --> 02:15:56,650
they telling us what's your take oh well

3037
02:16:01,290 --> 02:15:58,989
let's assume that they do know the truth

3038
02:16:02,790 --> 02:16:01,300
and they're not telling us because they

3039
02:16:05,430 --> 02:16:02,800
don't want to cause mass panic that's

3040
02:16:08,189 --> 02:16:05,440
the obvious answer I'm sure that that's

3041
02:16:10,200 --> 02:16:08,199
what everybody thinks and then I hear

3042
02:16:12,780 --> 02:16:10,210
some people say well I'm not going to

3043
02:16:17,510 --> 02:16:12,790
panic I want to know the truth but in

3044
02:16:20,490 --> 02:16:17,520
fact if we or somebody disclosed

3045
02:16:23,689 --> 02:16:20,500
officially some big official somewhere

3046
02:16:27,410 --> 02:16:23,699
said hey we've been visited by

3047
02:16:30,360 --> 02:16:27,420
extraterrestrials for 60 years or

3048
02:16:32,100 --> 02:16:30,370
thousands of years whatever it is they

3049
02:16:33,600 --> 02:16:32,110
are more powerful than us and more

3050
02:16:36,150 --> 02:16:33,610
intelligent than us and they can do all

3051
02:16:39,600 --> 02:16:36,160
kinds of stuff and we're powerless

3052
02:16:41,129 --> 02:16:39,610
against them so you know yeah yeah that

3053
02:16:43,740 --> 02:16:41,139
would that would probably cause a panic

3054
02:16:46,830 --> 02:16:43,750
I think that's why so we don't expect to

3055
02:16:50,040 --> 02:16:46,840
see Obama walk out with 18 say I have

3056
02:16:52,080 --> 02:16:50,050
here evidence in the form of this person

3057
02:16:54,719 --> 02:16:52,090
or being to prove that we're being

3058
02:16:56,910 --> 02:16:54,729
visited by other beings of course in

3059
02:16:58,799 --> 02:16:56,920
that case the political climate is so

3060
02:17:00,990 --> 02:16:58,809
polarized in this country I kind of

3061
02:17:05,719 --> 02:17:01,000
expect that if Obama came out that way

3062
02:17:11,610 --> 02:17:09,719
no no well I don't even want I don't

3063
02:17:14,759 --> 02:17:11,620
want to talk politics

3064
02:17:16,200 --> 02:17:14,769
at all but it wouldn't be believable

3065
02:17:19,410 --> 02:17:16,210
they would take it with a grain of salt

3066
02:17:22,080 --> 02:17:19,420
now Jesse Ventura said he might run

3067
02:17:24,000 --> 02:17:22,090
let's say on the off chance he gets into

3068
02:17:25,650 --> 02:17:24,010
the presidency that's one of the things

3069
02:17:27,120 --> 02:17:25,660
that he would burn up that's one of the

3070
02:17:30,299 --> 02:17:27,130
topics and he would want answers and

3071
02:17:32,370 --> 02:17:30,309
he'd tell everybody so I bet he's not

3072
02:17:34,290 --> 02:17:32,380
going to get in office something would

3073
02:17:36,839 --> 02:17:34,300
stop it all right well we know Jesse

3074
02:17:39,660 --> 02:17:36,849
Ventura he did one of our best episodes

3075
02:17:40,049 --> 02:17:39,670
of the para cast a few years back all

3076
02:17:42,870 --> 02:17:40,059
right

3077
02:17:44,520 --> 02:17:42,880
no great he is really great he's a lot

3078
02:17:46,169 --> 02:17:44,530
of fun now one of the other issues of

3079
02:17:48,509 --> 02:17:46,179
course with disclosure is whether you

3080
02:17:52,650 --> 02:17:48,519
would do it gradually in other words you

3081
02:17:55,740 --> 02:17:52,660
on a very very careful basis dole out

3082
02:17:59,129 --> 02:17:55,750
information and let's assume UFOs

3083
02:18:01,709 --> 02:17:59,139
represent visits by a team so you very

3084
02:18:03,870 --> 02:18:01,719
slowly present more and more evidence

3085
02:18:06,360 --> 02:18:03,880
that science has discovered that there

3086
02:18:09,690 --> 02:18:06,370
is life out there until at some point

3087
02:18:11,879 --> 02:18:09,700
you could say hey okay we know life is

3088
02:18:14,820 --> 02:18:11,889
out there here it is so isn't that

3089
02:18:17,190 --> 02:18:14,830
what's happening right now there go to

3090
02:18:20,009 --> 02:18:17,200
Mars and come back and say oh you know

3091
02:18:21,419 --> 02:18:20,019
there might have been some life here at

3092
02:18:24,360 --> 02:18:21,429
one time it looks like we've got some

3093
02:18:26,549 --> 02:18:24,370
fossils or something and now we're going

3094
02:18:28,589 --> 02:18:26,559
to Pluto I have a feeling they're going

3095
02:18:31,230 --> 02:18:28,599
to find something on Pluto I didn't find

3096
02:18:34,469 --> 02:18:31,240
water or something that could support

3097
02:18:36,930 --> 02:18:34,479
life and now all of a sudden past couple

3098
02:18:39,180 --> 02:18:36,940
of years I found all these billions and

3099
02:18:42,419 --> 02:18:39,190
billions of possibilities for planets

3100
02:18:46,440 --> 02:18:42,429
just in our galaxy alone that could

3101
02:18:51,660 --> 02:18:46,450
possibly support life so also through

3102
02:18:55,140 --> 02:18:51,670
movies television radio everybody on the

3103
02:18:58,410 --> 02:18:55,150
planet now knows and it's not surprised

3104
02:19:00,030 --> 02:18:58,420
to hear the term extraterrestrial even

3105
02:19:03,589 --> 02:19:00,040
the kids joke about it they even have

3106
02:19:07,650 --> 02:19:03,599
cartoons with et so are we being

3107
02:19:09,629 --> 02:19:07,660
conditioned maybe maybe there will be

3108
02:19:11,879 --> 02:19:09,639
some disclosure I just don't think it's

3109
02:19:14,160 --> 02:19:11,889
going to happen immediately so do you

3110
02:19:15,540 --> 02:19:14,170
think all this is part of it now we have

3111
02:19:18,049 --> 02:19:15,550
earth too by the way you've heard about

3112
02:19:20,640 --> 02:19:18,059
that where we have this other planet

3113
02:19:24,359 --> 02:19:20,650
1,400 light-years away that may or may

3114
02:19:27,030 --> 02:19:24,369
not be the mirror image

3115
02:19:31,649 --> 02:19:27,040
of Earth well not quite it's a little

3116
02:19:34,649 --> 02:19:31,659
larger things like that well I think you

3117
02:19:39,030 --> 02:19:34,659
know where I think that our government

3118
02:19:40,290 --> 02:19:39,040
and NASA knows a heck of a lot more than

3119
02:19:43,549 --> 02:19:40,300
they're revealing to us and they're

3120
02:19:46,259 --> 02:19:43,559
revealing it slowly to us over time and

3121
02:19:48,870 --> 02:19:46,269
at a rate that they think we can handle

3122
02:19:50,849 --> 02:19:48,880
it they're just you know planning the

3123
02:19:53,880 --> 02:19:50,859
thought okay oh this is the Vatican

3124
02:19:55,410 --> 02:19:53,890
investigate UFOs yes they do they have

3125
02:19:59,219 --> 02:19:55,420
their own Observatory they have their

3126
02:20:02,849 --> 02:19:59,229
own scientists that are on watch 24

3127
02:20:04,950 --> 02:20:02,859
hours a day and they're looking for a

3128
02:20:08,880 --> 02:20:04,960
lot of things including extraterrestrial

3129
02:20:11,519 --> 02:20:08,890
life you know fifty years ago you never

3130
02:20:13,679 --> 02:20:11,529
would have heard the Pope say something

3131
02:20:18,090 --> 02:20:13,689
like he believes that there could be

3132
02:20:21,090 --> 02:20:18,100
other intelligence out there so yeah

3133
02:20:24,420 --> 02:20:21,100
things have changed a lot things are

3134
02:20:26,189 --> 02:20:24,430
moving forward plus we don't need the

3135
02:20:29,240 --> 02:20:26,199
government to disclose something when

3136
02:20:31,950 --> 02:20:29,250
there's stuff above us all the time

3137
02:20:35,370 --> 02:20:31,960
constantly I mean that's what I

3138
02:20:36,330 --> 02:20:35,380
experienced in Kansas City and in the

3139
02:20:38,219 --> 02:20:36,340
state of Missouri

3140
02:20:41,910 --> 02:20:38,229
there's just constantly you know this

3141
02:20:44,130 --> 02:20:41,920
idea that only five to ten percent of

3142
02:20:47,219 --> 02:20:44,140
the reported sightings are explained I

3143
02:20:49,800 --> 02:20:47,229
don't go with that because out of mind

3144
02:20:52,920 --> 02:20:49,810
that I've looked at 40% of them are

3145
02:20:55,740 --> 02:20:52,930
unexplained that's a lot higher figure

3146
02:20:56,880 --> 02:20:55,750
and I think nobody wants that out that's

3147
02:20:59,609 --> 02:20:56,890
the interesting point you came out with

3148
02:21:02,429 --> 02:20:59,619
so you're saying that unlike what is

3149
02:21:05,490 --> 02:21:02,439
being said in general about the number

3150
02:21:08,939 --> 02:21:05,500
of cases are unexplained it's not five

3151
02:21:11,280 --> 02:21:08,949
or ten percent it's 40 percent yes just

3152
02:21:14,189 --> 02:21:11,290
based on my own experience and other

3153
02:21:15,840 --> 02:21:14,199
investigators I've spoken to it's a

3154
02:21:19,349 --> 02:21:15,850
large much larger percentage of

3155
02:21:21,090 --> 02:21:19,359
unexplained and unexplained means we

3156
02:21:23,639 --> 02:21:21,100
can't figure out what it is means we've

3157
02:21:25,530 --> 02:21:23,649
ruled out every possibility that we can

3158
02:21:27,149 --> 02:21:25,540
think of it's not the ISS it's not a

3159
02:21:29,189 --> 02:21:27,159
planet is there not a conventional

3160
02:21:32,429 --> 02:21:29,199
aircraft I'm looking at the whole thing

3161
02:21:34,559 --> 02:21:32,439
here about a psychological management of

3162
02:21:36,689 --> 02:21:34,569
possible disclosure of the presence of

3163
02:21:38,100 --> 02:21:36,699
alien visitation or it may just be our

3164
02:21:41,730 --> 02:21:38,110
scientific knowledge

3165
02:21:43,470 --> 02:21:41,740
that's expanding but assuming its

3166
02:21:46,020 --> 02:21:43,480
gradual disclosure how long do you think

3167
02:21:48,000 --> 02:21:46,030
it'll take for the people the powers

3168
02:21:50,100 --> 02:21:48,010
would be to be ready to say something

3169
02:21:52,410 --> 02:21:50,110
more significant or do we wake up one

3170
02:21:54,330 --> 02:21:52,420
day and say oh that's here and saying

3171
02:21:57,570 --> 02:21:54,340
that I'm assuming one thing for sure and

3172
02:22:01,680 --> 02:21:57,580
that is there will not be a mast landing

3173
02:22:03,810 --> 02:22:01,690
of alien visitors around the planet in

3174
02:22:06,660 --> 02:22:03,820
which they disclose their own presence

3175
02:22:09,350 --> 02:22:06,670
here well that's another topic that I've

3176
02:22:14,090 --> 02:22:09,360
remote viewed okay

3177
02:22:18,330 --> 02:22:14,100
I've actually remote viewed that and I

3178
02:22:23,310 --> 02:22:18,340
have seen certain people who involved

3179
02:22:27,301 --> 02:22:23,320
who would be discussing that and the

3180
02:22:30,210 --> 02:22:27,311
consensus is among other countries that

3181
02:22:32,250 --> 02:22:30,220
they're ready for disclosure and they

3182
02:22:35,580 --> 02:22:32,260
want to go ahead with it but the United

3183
02:22:38,850 --> 02:22:35,590
States has been reluctant and they

3184
02:22:41,280 --> 02:22:38,860
absolutely put their foot down and will

3185
02:22:43,560 --> 02:22:41,290
refuse to do that and have refused and

3186
02:22:46,261 --> 02:22:43,570
it's been some time so some of those

3187
02:22:51,600 --> 02:22:46,271
countries involved went ahead and what a

3188
02:22:53,820 --> 02:22:51,610
lot of their files go and so the world

3189
02:22:56,400 --> 02:22:53,830
you know you know knows about that you

3190
02:22:59,150 --> 02:22:56,410
know if something is going on but until

3191
02:23:02,910 --> 02:22:59,160
the United States does I don't think

3192
02:23:05,460 --> 02:23:02,920
that it's going to really sink into

3193
02:23:07,860 --> 02:23:05,470
people that this is a real thing a real

3194
02:23:10,470 --> 02:23:07,870
event because they look the rest of

3195
02:23:14,960 --> 02:23:10,480
world looks to us as you know the

3196
02:23:18,240 --> 02:23:14,970
experts on the topic I believe of course

3197
02:23:22,340 --> 02:23:18,250
the Belgians and the Germans and the

3198
02:23:25,261 --> 02:23:22,350
British are are up there too as well as

3199
02:23:27,660 --> 02:23:25,271
some South American countries but but

3200
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they really need the United States to

3201
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come forward and it and admit at least

3202
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that some there are some things that are

3203
02:23:37,860 --> 02:23:36,010
unexplained but they're refusing to do

3204
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that in at least in what I've seen

3205
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remote viewing

3206
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well okay this is an important issue

3207
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which kind of like to bring up here

3208
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which is that we obviously have

3209
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countries out there who don't like the

3210
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United States

3211
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and I kind of think that maybe some of

3212
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them would like to one-up us and we

3213
02:24:04,410 --> 02:24:01,480
could name certain countries that would

3214
02:24:07,080 --> 02:24:04,420
love to one-up the United States come up

3215
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with something that we haven't disclosed

3216
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and either make us look secretive or

3217
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make us look foolish you get the picture

3218
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we've got more to come with gene and

3219
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Chris you're in the para cast

3220
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3221
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use it to import images from digital

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3255
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3256
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3257
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3258
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the IRS for over 30 years I've helped

3259
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thousands and I can help you too

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I wrote the book on IRS settlement and

3261
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3262
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a hopeless case call 834 no tax to

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834 no tax that's 803 for no tax or my

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we all know that berkey water

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3285
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order free of charge with the purchase

3286
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of a per key light the burka guy is also

3287
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offering a set of fluoride and arsenic

3288
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3289
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3290
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3291
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3292
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3293
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3296
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our water weren't bad enough now they're

3297
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adding ammonia it's true some

3298
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municipalities are now adding ammonia

3299
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plus chlorine to your water supply

3300
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3301
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3302
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3305
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3306
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3307
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3308
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3309
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3310
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3311
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3312
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3317
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3318
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3319
02:28:48,120 --> 02:28:45,689
hi this is Joshua p1 author of the poor

3320
02:28:50,610 --> 02:28:48,130
vans paranormal and you're listening to

3321
02:29:01,349 --> 02:28:50,620
the podcast the gold standard of

3322
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paranormal radio first and foremost I

3323
02:29:05,849 --> 02:29:03,520
will not comment on the claim about

3324
02:29:08,880 --> 02:29:05,859
remote viewing the attitudes of other

3325
02:29:11,490 --> 02:29:08,890
countries towards UFOs let's move on

3326
02:29:13,800 --> 02:29:11,500
it's a mark of Honor by the way I'm the

3327
02:29:17,880 --> 02:29:13,810
parrot asked to be asked to do our

3328
02:29:19,650 --> 02:29:17,890
stinger oh yeah it is it is and by the

3329
02:29:22,410 --> 02:29:19,660
way as we're talking I did locate a

3330
02:29:25,530 --> 02:29:22,420
couple of threads which I'll put in the

3331
02:29:28,290 --> 02:29:25,540
chat window of Skype for you to check

3332
02:29:29,490 --> 02:29:28,300
out about the topic under discussion so

3333
02:29:31,439 --> 02:29:29,500
let's continue here we're talking about

3334
02:29:33,300 --> 02:29:31,449
the possibilities of gradual disclosure

3335
02:29:35,820 --> 02:29:33,310
and the theory that I gave towards the

3336
02:29:38,670 --> 02:29:35,830
end of the previous segment that maybe

3337
02:29:40,349 --> 02:29:38,680
we have to consider other governments

3338
02:29:42,900 --> 02:29:40,359
who don't like the United States and

3339
02:29:46,349 --> 02:29:42,910
would like to one-up us wouldn't Putin

3340
02:29:50,280 --> 02:29:46,359
in Russia want to say hey we can prove

3341
02:29:53,729 --> 02:29:50,290
we got the evidence about 80 well what

3342
02:29:56,760 --> 02:29:53,739
about this scenario let's say that all

3343
02:30:00,000 --> 02:29:56,770
of the major superpowers do know about

3344
02:30:03,330 --> 02:30:00,010
et and they decided to work together

3345
02:30:05,729 --> 02:30:03,340
through a program called Star Wars and

3346
02:30:08,540 --> 02:30:05,739
they decided to create a space station

3347
02:30:11,429 --> 02:30:08,550
and maybe multiple space stations and

3348
02:30:14,250 --> 02:30:11,439
maybe a base on the moon working

3349
02:30:19,620 --> 02:30:14,260
together everybody for the benefit of

3350
02:30:23,849 --> 02:30:19,630
protecting the earth from possible

3351
02:30:26,519 --> 02:30:23,859
negative extraterrestrials and then all

3352
02:30:29,729 --> 02:30:26,529
the rest of this stuff is smoke and

3353
02:30:37,620 --> 02:30:29,739
mirrors all the wars and the fighting

3354
02:30:41,010 --> 02:30:37,630
and the junk TV as I call it that people

3355
02:30:42,510 --> 02:30:41,020
are paying attention to are all things

3356
02:30:44,880 --> 02:30:42,520
to get our attention away from what's

3357
02:30:46,889 --> 02:30:44,890
really going on because there would be

3358
02:30:49,620 --> 02:30:46,899
mass panic if the world thought we were

3359
02:30:51,600 --> 02:30:49,630
in some danger and that there our

3360
02:30:54,421 --> 02:30:51,610
superpowers were working together

3361
02:30:57,900 --> 02:30:54,431
against a common enemy I mean look at

3362
02:30:59,791 --> 02:30:57,910
the evidence from the space shuttle are

3363
02:31:02,400 --> 02:30:59,801
the the Space Shuttle photographs that

3364
02:31:04,711 --> 02:31:02,410
clearly show what looks like a missile

3365
02:31:06,990 --> 02:31:04,721
going out and some objects that are

3366
02:31:10,020 --> 02:31:07,000
moving at a 90 degree angle at extremely

3367
02:31:12,450 --> 02:31:10,030
high rate of speed it looks like a star

3368
02:31:15,801 --> 02:31:12,460
wars going on up there well remember

3369
02:31:20,070 --> 02:31:15,811
star wars originally was the name of an

3370
02:31:24,001 --> 02:31:20,080
advanced spaceborne defensive system

3371
02:31:27,900 --> 02:31:24,011
proposed by president reagan right yeah

3372
02:31:31,261 --> 02:31:27,910
I am convinced that that is implemented

3373
02:31:33,030 --> 02:31:31,271
now and it has been for some time and

3374
02:31:38,041 --> 02:31:33,040
we're actually working with the Russians

3375
02:31:40,560 --> 02:31:38,051
and probably the Germans as well so even

3376
02:31:44,461 --> 02:31:40,570
though we say officially we didn't do

3377
02:31:48,150 --> 02:31:44,471
that we did that oh yeah I've seen some

3378
02:31:51,140 --> 02:31:48,160
things here in Kansas City that lead me

3379
02:31:57,230 --> 02:31:51,150
to believe that we have some objects

3380
02:32:00,841 --> 02:31:57,240
around the planet that are near earth

3381
02:32:03,810 --> 02:32:00,851
stations and they are they have weapons

3382
02:32:05,940 --> 02:32:03,820
on them for protection they've probably

3383
02:32:08,430 --> 02:32:05,950
taken out some asteroids like the one

3384
02:32:11,341 --> 02:32:08,440
over Russia and they would probably be

3385
02:32:13,890 --> 02:32:11,351
able to take some things out who would

3386
02:32:15,541 --> 02:32:13,900
be coming in from elsewhere so taking

3387
02:32:18,270 --> 02:32:15,551
out something from et is that what

3388
02:32:21,331 --> 02:32:18,280
you're suggesting yes with advanced

3389
02:32:23,461 --> 02:32:21,341
powerful weapons that the public doesn't

3390
02:32:27,270 --> 02:32:23,471
know anything about so that goes by the

3391
02:32:32,131 --> 02:32:27,280
assumption that et if it exists is

3392
02:32:36,091 --> 02:32:32,141
hostile some not all of them but it's I

3393
02:32:39,001 --> 02:32:36,101
mean if you if you just take some of the

3394
02:32:40,230 --> 02:32:39,011
government's own publications I can't

3395
02:32:43,051 --> 02:32:40,240
think of the name of it right now if

3396
02:32:45,060 --> 02:32:43,061
there's one where they've got like 132

3397
02:32:48,570 --> 02:32:45,070
different types of extraterrestrials in

3398
02:32:51,150 --> 02:32:48,580
it well look at the earth look how many

3399
02:32:54,060 --> 02:32:51,160
different countries and nationalities

3400
02:32:55,650 --> 02:32:54,070
and races of people here that we have

3401
02:32:56,970 --> 02:32:55,660
that are not getting along and some of

3402
02:32:59,881 --> 02:32:56,980
them are very aggressive and some of

3403
02:33:04,020 --> 02:32:59,891
them aren't but are you suggesting some

3404
02:33:05,410 --> 02:33:04,030
of our wars were fabricated well imagine

3405
02:33:10,179 --> 02:33:05,420
the same thing at this point

3406
02:33:13,210 --> 02:33:10,189
away from us I suspect that yes just

3407
02:33:15,850 --> 02:33:13,220
like I suspect that the 9/11 event was

3408
02:33:18,280 --> 02:33:15,860
fabricated well I'm wondering about all

3409
02:33:21,700 --> 02:33:18,290
those troops who were killed though yeah

3410
02:33:23,140 --> 02:33:21,710
that's sad extremely sad but do you

3411
02:33:28,179 --> 02:33:23,150
think the military industrial complex

3412
02:33:30,010 --> 02:33:28,189
which stage Wars just to hide something

3413
02:33:32,290 --> 02:33:30,020
else that seems kind of strange - we can

3414
02:33:35,800 --> 02:33:32,300
talk about the motives and have a great

3415
02:33:38,469 --> 02:33:35,810
political argument well that's that that

3416
02:33:40,330 --> 02:33:38,479
would be an entire other show to talk

3417
02:33:43,660 --> 02:33:40,340
about conspiracy theories and the

3418
02:33:45,340 --> 02:33:43,670
Illuminati and what's really going on in

3419
02:33:49,860 --> 02:33:45,350
the background who's pulling the strings

3420
02:33:54,270 --> 02:33:49,870
I mean if anybody believes that our

3421
02:33:57,100 --> 02:33:54,280
political heads of state are in charge

3422
02:33:58,960 --> 02:33:57,110
you know I had I have to say think again

3423
02:34:02,650 --> 02:33:58,970
there's something going on behind the

3424
02:34:06,550 --> 02:34:02,660
scenes there's just too much evidence

3425
02:34:08,530 --> 02:34:06,560
and I don't believe anything I don't

3426
02:34:11,080 --> 02:34:08,540
even watch the mainstream news anymore

3427
02:34:14,679 --> 02:34:11,090
because everything they say is probably

3428
02:34:17,170 --> 02:34:14,689
the opposite is true okay so if I want

3429
02:34:21,219 --> 02:34:17,180
to get the truth is there like a TV

3430
02:34:25,360 --> 02:34:21,229
network where I can find it I doubt it I

3431
02:34:27,429 --> 02:34:25,370
think you know the closest that you can

3432
02:34:29,260 --> 02:34:27,439
get to the truth is people talking to

3433
02:34:31,030 --> 02:34:29,270
each other through the internet and

3434
02:34:32,469 --> 02:34:31,040
that's how information gets out there

3435
02:34:34,300 --> 02:34:32,479
and of course there's a lot of

3436
02:34:36,340 --> 02:34:34,310
disinformation happening that way as

3437
02:34:39,640 --> 02:34:36,350
well so you just have to be really

3438
02:34:41,440 --> 02:34:39,650
careful and sometime you just have to

3439
02:34:43,810 --> 02:34:41,450
give up say you're just not going to

3440
02:34:44,910 --> 02:34:43,820
know the truth well the thing we have to

3441
02:34:48,190 --> 02:34:44,920
understand about the so-called

3442
02:34:51,760 --> 02:34:48,200
mainstream media is that all of them

3443
02:34:55,990 --> 02:34:51,770
we're not talking about just NBC or CBS

3444
02:34:59,380 --> 02:34:56,000
or ABC but Fox News they are all owned

3445
02:35:02,050 --> 02:34:59,390
by large multinational corporations and

3446
02:35:04,420 --> 02:35:02,060
the purpose of those corporations is to

3447
02:35:07,360 --> 02:35:04,430
make a profit and you make a profit with

3448
02:35:10,450 --> 02:35:07,370
ratings because ratings produce ads and

3449
02:35:13,000 --> 02:35:10,460
the ads could be sold at higher rates so

3450
02:35:14,679 --> 02:35:13,010
of course if you get more people to

3451
02:35:16,780 --> 02:35:14,689
watch and one way to do that is to just

3452
02:35:18,710 --> 02:35:16,790
make them mad you know you have

3453
02:35:22,519 --> 02:35:18,720
outrageous

3454
02:35:24,490 --> 02:35:22,529
newse crazy things going on lots of

3455
02:35:28,130 --> 02:35:24,500
controversy lots of name-calling

3456
02:35:30,469 --> 02:35:28,140
well people watch people listen shows

3457
02:35:31,849 --> 02:35:30,479
get ratings and that's how they succeed

3458
02:35:34,880 --> 02:35:31,859
but how could you believe what they say

3459
02:35:37,700 --> 02:35:34,890
it's become entertainment it's not news

3460
02:35:42,200 --> 02:35:37,710
it's news entertainment and they also

3461
02:35:44,360 --> 02:35:42,210
censor I've had several cases where the

3462
02:35:47,870 --> 02:35:44,370
news media was initially interested and

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I was interviewed by reporter in fact

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reporter was on site during one

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investigation and he saw things he

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couldn't believe well he went into a

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second investigation segment was aired

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again a week later and then when he

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wanted to do a third one his his boss

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brought him into his office and he said

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we need to stop this and he said why and

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he says I can't tell you why they're

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just not gonna be anymore

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and the the reporter was very interested

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because he saw some amazing things he

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saw things shooting across the sky in a

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second and then back to its original

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location the he saw laser beam lights

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being shot across the sky and his camera

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reporter was so afraid that she refused

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to go back to the site you know what

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that's all we have to end it with that

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cliffhanger and save it for another day

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02:36:45,139 --> 02:36:43,620
margie kay please tell our listeners

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where they can find more the stuff you

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work on

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well our MUFON site is Missouri

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moveon.org my site for our next news is

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02:37:01,400 --> 02:36:58,920
uh next news calm you can find us on

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02:37:03,110 --> 02:37:01,410
Twitter where we are known as the para

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02:37:05,690 --> 02:37:03,120
cast so look for the para cast on

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02:37:09,080 --> 02:37:05,700
Twitter we also have two official para

3493
02:37:11,150 --> 02:37:09,090
cast fan clubs on Facebook now ideally

3494
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we'd like to make them one but Facebook

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02:37:15,200 --> 02:37:13,200
has told us if you do that you have to

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02:37:17,479 --> 02:37:15,210
kill the contents of the other so just

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02:37:19,340 --> 02:37:17,489
pick one or both and enjoy it you can

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02:37:21,650 --> 02:37:19,350
also find Jean Steinberg on Facebook

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he's the guy with the plaid shirt if

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that's what he's wearing he's probably

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02:37:27,979 --> 02:37:25,890
me if he's wearing a suit it's a fake

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photo I don't want to get into that we

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02:37:31,700 --> 02:37:30,000
also have a second radio show Chris and

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02:37:34,280 --> 02:37:31,710
I it's called after

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02:37:37,130 --> 02:37:34,290
power cast and after the para cast can

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02:37:38,960 --> 02:37:37,140
be anything can be postgame conversation

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02:37:40,370 --> 02:37:38,970
it could be special interviews it could

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02:37:43,610 --> 02:37:40,380
be something entirely different

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02:37:45,469 --> 02:37:43,620
we leave the tapas open-ended until

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02:37:48,740 --> 02:37:45,479
shortly before the show is done it's

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from 25 to 35 minutes ad free after the

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02:37:53,540 --> 02:37:50,550
power cast we also offer on the para

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02:37:55,100 --> 02:37:53,550
cast plus the ad free version of this

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02:37:57,410 --> 02:37:55,110
show make a note of that people

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02:38:00,440 --> 02:37:57,420
reviewing the Power casts for iTunes and

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02:38:02,960 --> 02:38:00,450
YouTube there is an ad free version we

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02:38:04,340 --> 02:38:02,970
take out 41 minutes of network ads we

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02:38:06,530 --> 02:38:04,350
give you a better quality audio so you

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02:38:09,350 --> 02:38:06,540
can hear Margie K for example with a

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02:38:11,960 --> 02:38:09,360
higher resolution so you get every tone

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02:38:13,820 --> 02:38:11,970
just perfectly my voice never changes

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02:38:16,430 --> 02:38:13,830
that's how it is we're also giving away

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02:38:18,670 --> 02:38:16,440
a free book stalking the tricksters from

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02:38:21,830 --> 02:38:18,680
Chris O'Brien and Chris tells me that

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02:38:23,810 --> 02:38:21,840
the your time allotted to give away this

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free book is at a minimum he's gonna

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02:38:28,219 --> 02:38:25,710
change that policy because he's losing

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royalties by donating the eBook version

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02:38:34,310 --> 02:38:30,510
of the book to find out more go to plus

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02:38:35,600 --> 02:38:34,320
dot the para cast com PLU s done the

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02:38:37,400 --> 02:38:35,610
para cast com

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02:38:38,960 --> 02:38:37,410
it's been a fascinating episode I'm

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02:38:41,270 --> 02:38:38,970
really glad to meet you Margie k I know

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02:38:43,820 --> 02:38:41,280
we don't agree on everything but I'm

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02:38:45,830 --> 02:38:43,830
happy to have you on the show thanks for

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02:38:51,470 --> 02:38:45,840
joining us it's been lots of fun thank

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[Music]

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02:39:00,401 --> 02:38:57,501
the para cast featuring gene Steinberg

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02:39:03,390 --> 02:39:00,411
and Christopher O'Brien is a copyrighted

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02:39:07,301 --> 02:39:03,400
presentation of making the impossible